Java on the BSD Desktop?

[Vladimir Tsvetkov]

On 30/05/07, Vladimir Tsvetkov <npacemo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> When we talk about portability of User Interface applications with rich
> interactivity we must also put into disscusion Adobe Flash and Adobe Flex
> applications.
> Adobe is working on its Apollo platform (huge part of it is open source -
> http://www.podtech.net/home/2827/the-architecture-of-flash), which should
> bring RIA into the desktop as a front end technology and leave to us the
> choice among the diverse flavours of back end technologies.
>
> To my oppinion Java is more suitable for  back end solutions. The level of
> interractivity of Java GUI apps is around the standard for the most wide
> spread applications, but it is still way to far from being competitive to
> the richness in human-computer interaction, that we can design and use with
> Flash/Flex apps.
>
> I would like to see a native FreeBSD Flash player.
>
> This is the main reason I'm getting into this disscussion.
>
> There is a Flash player for the Macs and for the Linuxes, we need also a
> native Flash player.
>
> Best Regards,
> Vladimir Tsvetkov,
> http://www.gugga.com/
>
> On 30/05/07, n j < nino80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I guess if everyone here on this list gives his/her two cents to this
> > > topic we're having a nice java advocacy flame war. ;-)
> >
> > The main characteristic of a flame war is to disparage other people's
> > arguments while maintaining that your arguments are the best, no?
> > That's why I'm not going to try and talk anyone out of their poison
> > :-), be it C, Python, Perl or C#/Mono.
> >
> > Rather, I would like to continue a constructive discussion by speaking
> > from a personal experience. I apologize in advance if this is OT even
> > though it is FreeBSD-related and this list does see a lot of
> > shell/perl/... questions, so I don't see why a Java question should be
> > illegitimate.
> >
> > First off, in my company we had a Java app (simple app, working with
> > database and e-mails) written for Windows. And then, there came
> > company decision to make Linux the default desktop solution. Java app
> > worked like a charm with no changes whatsoever.
> >
> > Second, I'm running a custom-written Java server app on a FreeBSD
> > server for over half a year in production plus many months before that
> > in development. It works rock solid on Diablo JDK. Of course, we also
> > have a GUI desktop app that connects to this server that works on both
> > Windows and Ubuntu.
> >
> > I completely agree that Sun's licence is a hassle. Fortunately, in a
> > year or two, we're going to have an open source Java platform meaning
> > there will be no hassle with manual download while installing JRE/JDK.
> > Combined with the great API, object-oriented nature of the language,
> > free IDE for serious development (Eclipse and specifically Netbeans
> > with a very capable Swing GUI visual editor) - this combination
> > strikes me as something only Microsoft can compete with.
> >
> > Another .02,
> > --
> > Nino
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