Another slightly OT q...

Eduardo Morras nec556 at retena.com
Wed May 9 17:50:14 UTC 2007


At 23:22 08/05/2007, you wrote:

>>>
>>> see: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Sloot
>>>
>>> about the " Sloot Digital Coding System". great stuff.
>>>
>>
>>        Danke.
>
>that seems to be German, in Dutch "Bedankt" would be appropiate. i
>appreciate the effort though.
>
>>I found the english wkik entry so I could understand the
>>        piece.  Since Sloot is dead, no way of knowing.
>
>actually there is. the Dutch wiki-article has much more detail about the case.
>
>this Sloot guy claimed he could compress any movie into 1kb ( 1024
>bytes ). he stored this 1kb movies on smartcards, which he would feed
>into his magic machine to show the movies.
>
>in The Netherlands there was press-coverage about this, and he was
>able to attract investors and even a ( up to then ) reputable IT-guru
>assiocated with Philips to back him. they found silicon-valley
>investors who were interested.
>
>he died / killed himself / was murdered before his hoax could be uncovered.

It's easily covered. Check usenet comp.compression faq. It's the "Counting Theorem". For a sequence of n-bits there are 2^n possible files (f.e. there are 256 files of 8 bits). Unfortunately there are only (2^n)-1 possible files lesser than the original (f.e. there are 128 files of 7 bits, 64 of 6, 32 of 5, 16 of 4, 8 of 3, 4 of 2 and 2 of 1 bits, total, 255 files) so using an algorithm you can't compress all n-bits sequences.

For this case, you can easily check that using this guy algorithm, you can have only 2^8192 movies. Perhaps you think they are a lot, but nearly all are white noise movies.

There are 1-2 monthly of this claims on comp.compression. Normally they are beginners to Information Theory / Compression but others are simply cheaters.

>sounds a lot like the perpetuum mobile stories.

In fact, it is. Information Theory uses entropy concept too and claims like this breaks the 2nd and 3rd principle.

>>But this is the
>>        kind of leap forward that would save, oh, a few measley
>>        $Billions.  And give millions of us faster and broader access.

HTH



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