Response "Fwd: failure notice"

Jeffrey Goldberg jeffrey at
Sat Apr 28 15:04:18 UTC 2007

On Apr 28, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Andriy Babiy wrote:

> On every message, sent to the list, I receive a strange response  
> with the
> subject line: "Fwd: failure notice".

This is because (at least) one member of the list,  
kugua065315 at, has an address behind a broken MTA.

If the email system for that delivery worked, then the bounce  
message  would go to

   owner-freebsd-questions at

instead of to the person who posted the message.

People behind mail systems like those should never, ever be allowed  
near Internet email discussion groups.  I haven't seen a mail system  
that broken for a long time.  Typically it is because the mail goes  
through some kind of gateway that fails to preserve the "envelope  
from" address.

It would be nice if the list manager for this list could trace down  
which subscribed address is causing the problem (not always an easy  
thing to do) and ban them from the list.

A more common problem is the list subscriber who has a badly  
configured auto responder set up.  I have a rant about those at


Jeffrey Goldberg              

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