csh as default root Shell

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 05:59:03PM -0700, jekillen wrote:

> 
> On Sep 18, 2006, at 7:43 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 07:34:09PM -0700, jekillen wrote:
> >
> >>Hello;
> >>Since I have been advised by way of correspondence with  UUASC (Unix
> >>Users of Association of Southern California)
> >>that changing the root shell in FreeBSD is not advised and I have two
> >>machines up and running and a third on the
> >>way, I have purchased a text from (I don't know if it is appropriate
> >>for this list to mention the publisher by name but
> >>it is closely connected to the publisher of Absolute BSD).
> >>Has anyone any comments regarding this text based on familiarity 
> >>(Using
> >>Csh and Tcsh). I noticed the publication
> >>date is 1995. It's a manual of sorts, I'll read it before stumbling
> >>around on lists for answers to awk ward questions.
> >
> >You can mention any text you want.  Do we ban books in this country?
> well, it was the publisher that seemed, for some unspecified reason to
> cause a sort of silence in responses. It is O'Reilly and I also didn't 
> want
> to come across as promoting it because this is a noncommercial list.

Don't worry.   You can mention your sources and even favorites here
as long as you are not blatantly advertising.   

> I am learning as I go and do try using man pages as I go along but find
> them hard to digest. There's nothing wrong with the man pages, it is my
> lack of knowledge that I run up against when reading them. I have bought
> a ton of tech books from many different sources to get a reasonable
> perspective on important subjects. Take c programming, for instance; no
> one book can cover every aspect of c programming, and what is covered
> might not trip my light switches, whereas another author on the same
> aspect of the same subject might explain some thing in a way I can more
> easily understand.

The two FreeBSD books I think most people find most useful besides
the official FreeBSD Handbook are "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Leahy
and "FreeBSD Unleashed" by Michael Urban and Brian Tiemann.   The others
are pretty good, but those have kept up to date the best with new
editions.   Greg Leahy has said he will not make another new edition
and has made his entire text available free over the net, but I hope
he will finally get his arm twisted to make one that accomodates
FreeBSD 6.xxx and 7.xxx which have some significant changes in file
systems and kernel structure done for multi-threading.

> >But, 1995 is kind of old as things go.  The book may have more recent
> >editions.   Another source is the the FreeBSD Handbook that is 
> >available
> >free online at the FreeBSD website and also in printed versions some
> >places.
> I believe it is the same one I got when I purchased the install cd and 
> tools set; User's guide and Administrator's guide, or am I mistaken? 

It probably follows it closely, but I don't think it is quite the
same document.   If you go to the FreeBSD web site and click on the
FreeBSD Handbook link, you will find it all there.   It is pretty good.

>   I don't know that
> there is enough of a difference between 5x and 6x to warrant a new 
> edition,
> but it covers 5x and not 6x which I have (6.0). Notable difference is 
> switch to
> xorg from xFree86. But the display configuration was good at detecting 
> my display and graphics card for me on the one machine I have Xwindows 
> installed on. 

There are some big changes inside, but not ones you would probably
notice as a basic user.   If you start doing some programming, you
will run in to them.

I do prefer tcsh to the other shells.
But, everyone seems to have their own preference.
But, leave the main root shell as /bin/sh just because it is
those times when things are down and you need it most that it
will come and bite you.

////jerry

> >////jerry
> 
> Thanks for the response, I have big gaps in my knowledge and have gotten
> by with very specific problems and solutions. I am trying to bulk out 
> my understanding.
> I'll spend more time with the stuff I have to hand.
> Jeff K
> >
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance.
> >>Jeff K.
> >>
>