wikipedia article

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at
Tue Jun 13 05:23:37 UTC 2006

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>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions at]On Behalf Of Thor
>Lancelot Simon
>Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:48 AM
>To: Dale Rahn
>Cc: misc at; freebsd-questions at;
>netbsd-users at
>Subject: Re: wikipedia article
>On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:23:06AM -0400, Dale Rahn wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 10:18:55PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote:
>> > On 6/11/06, Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton at> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >* IIRC NetBSD was a fork of FreeBSD
>> >
>> > that's an interesting theory when you consider that the first netbsd
>> > release came out 8 months before the first freebsd release.
>> >
>> However, NetBSD was a fork of 386BSD0.1+patchkit, where the group
>> developing the patchkit became FreeBSD.
>ITYM "some of" the group; I don't know where things would end
>up by total
>lines of code contributed, but I'd say NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD might
>well end up about even.  If you really want to pick nits, I could point
>out that the patchkit maintainers received a pre-release
>snapshot of NetBSD
>0.8 well before the FreeBSD release, portions of which were incorporated
>into FreeBSD without proper credit; so it would be wholly reasonable to
>call FreeBSD a "fork" of NetBSD 0.8.

Cool, which portions?

>Does it really matter?  This whole discussion seems like a deliberate
>effort to dredge up old rivalries and create bad feeling.  It is all
>ancient, ancient history now.

That is absolutely rediculous and you are the one trying to cause
bad feeling.  Just because your bored with the discussion doesn't
give you the right to start singing kumbiya and the GNU share the
software song and wet all over the rest of us.

History is interesting in of it's own right.  There was a lot of emotion
involved in creating the operating systems.  Without that emotion
driving people to do things, the OSes would not have got done.  To
try to minimize this is to cheat the newbies to the system today of
the rich heritage, and replace it with bland tasteless cardboard.  It's
just like the stupid replacement of the FreeBSD Beastie logo with
the sex-toy logo.  Blah, bland tasteless.

All of this happened over a decade ago and many of the players that were
involved aren't involved in any of the OSs anymore in a significant
way  If your not mature enough to deal with reading about 10 year
old controversy, I suggest you go back to your Bernstain Bears books
and stop bothering the adults.


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