Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> > > 
> > > >notice this thread is in reference to
> > swapping a MB for another MB and
> > > >coments like yours are not appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Please notice I never said what the box was
> > doing nor did I ask for your
> > > >opinion of what MB/NIC I use in my systems.
> > > 
> > > Makes no difference, he has as much right to
> > sound off as you do
> > > as long as he sounds off on FreeBSD or a
> > directly related topic.  This
> > > is a public forum.  If you don't like a post,
> > delete it.
> > 
> > So, I guess that means that the original poster
> > can spout off and say that
> > the response contained irrelevant and offensive
> > material if he wants as well.
> > Getting those types of responses is one way
> > that persons (at least some of
> > them who have sufficient perception) learn how
> > to make appropriate and
> > meaningful responses.  
> > 
> > > As I've said before on this mailing list,
> > freebsd-questions is a public
> > > mailing list that is FREE support.  You don't
> > "have it your way" you
> > > "have it the responders way"
> > 
> > And the original poster subsequently became a
> > responder.
> > 
> > > If you can shuck some pearls out of the
> > oyster bed here, your doing
> > > better than most, but you have no right to
> > urinate all over the oyster
> > > bed just because you don't find any pearls.
> > 
> > Wow, I am stunned.
> > 
> > > If you want it "your way" I suggest you
> > investigate PAID support.  There
> > > are plenty of people out there taking money
> > for support, and they will
> > > give you the support any way you want, on as
> > nice a silver platter and
> > > bed of roses and as polite as you want.
> > 
> > Pecuniary reward is not the only reason to
> > learn how to make reasonable,
> > meaningful responses that are to the point of
> > the question and to be
> > able to understand the difference.   Being able
> > to post responses that
> > are respected in the community is another
> > reward and may occasionally
> > require learning from peoples comments on the
> > quality of the responses.
> > 
> > ////jerry
> > 
> > > 
> > > > This SERVER is
> > > >purpose built
> > > >and runs stable 24/7 as a low volume
> > outbound mail server so
> > > >the performance
> > > >of the NIC is not my primary concern.
> > > 
> > > You have no need to justify what your doing
> > to him or to me or to
> > > anybody.
> > > Why bother doing it.
> > > 
> > > > Please keep your useless
> > > >comments to
> > > >yourself as they do nothing but waste disk
> > space, CPU time and
> > > >the valuable
> > > >time of people who attempt to help others on
> > this list.
> 
> How is informing someone that they're wasting
> their money on a MB a waste of time? I'm sure
> you've wasted thousands of your employers dollars
> with your ignorant recommendations, Jerry. I can
> get hours of entertainment just googling you.

I think by now, people have lost track of who has posted what.
I think I have am already not sure which is which on the later posts.

I don't really care what the responses were.   It is just
that Teddy got all flamey about the original poster telling
someone that their response was not helpful.   Seems like he
likes to dish it out but isn't as big on lunching on his
own menu.   

Of course, my post was almost as off-topic as Teddy's, but
it did apply to an extra comment made by the original poster.


> Ok, here's a test to illustrate my point. I have
> a server with a big file (352MB). 2 client
> machines running the same version of Freebsd:
> 
> 1) AMD 1.8Ghz Opteron - onboard bge controller:
> 
> Ftp results: 4MB/s
> 
> 2) Intel 2.0Ghz Celeron 845 Chipset, onboard fxp
> controller:
> 
> ftp results: 11MB/s
> 
> I think we'll all agree that a 1.8Ghz opteron is
> substantially faster (and more expensive) then a
> 2.0Ghz Celeron? (or will Jerry ask me to prove
> this also)? Its not rocket science. What good is
> the extra horsepower of the cpu doing you if
> you're using a crap controller? Its mindless
> stupidity; which is about what you'd expect from
> a sys admin, and not an engineer. The problem
> with this list is that its all sys admins, so
> learning from other idiots just causes  you to be
> just as stupid at your "teachers".

I haven't asked anyone to prove anything.   What you say may be true.  
So what.   The original poster just said it is irrelevant to the 
question asked.   Seemed to take a little offense too that seemed a 
little excessively touchy, but that's his business.

////jerry

> 
> DT
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