Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Born, Clinton" <Clinton.Born at dig.com>
To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <chad at shire.net>; "Born, Clinton"
<Clinton.Born at dig.com>
Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?


> A predilection to evangelize tools that supports ones own belief in
> software superiority is what curtails our ability to move any platform
> forward. I would keep a hesitant eye on any individual that holds such
> fervent beliefs.

Do you keep a hesitant eye on Microsoft, then?  Since they are one of the
biggest evangelizers of their own tools there is...

> I have old NT servers that have run Disney.com

Apparently, not.

> for
> several years and have served us well. Technology is an enabler, not a
> divider. Too many people unknowingly adopt the later.
>

This is just a load of dingos kidneys.  Your no better than anyone else you
are just spewing to sound superior.

The "best tool for the job" why that is a loaded statement if there ever was
one.
There are precious few jobs
out there that I can think of that there are not multiple, different tools
for that
many people use with equal success.  In fact the only one that comes to mind
is pulling the tilt steering wheel on a 80's-90's GM vehicle, since it uses
a
special tool that only SnapOn ever manufactured.

One person's "best tool" is another person's junk tool.  This is a
subjective
judgement if there ever was one.  And there is really nothing wrong with it.

Sorry if it offends your politically correct credentials (good example of
why
disney's quality has gone down the toilet in the last 20 years) but it does
not
harm anyone's ability to move any platform forward to have a bunch of vocal
detractors out there.  Everyone loves their platform of choice and it is
perfectly
OK for them to be as vocal as they like, and nobody is harmed for that
happening.

The people who are willing to be open minded will use a mix of tools from
Microsoft and the rest of the world, and the people who are closed minded
will use tools from Microsoft, and neither is going to pay any attention to
whatever
loudmouths are bandmouthing their choices.  That's the way the world has
worked in the past when IBM was king people did the same thing, and that's
the way it will always work.

You can stand up an be counted as an open minded person, or you can use NT
and stand up to be counted with the closed minded people who only use
Microsoft solutions.  It's your choice.

Ted


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chad Leigh --
> Shire.Net LLC
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:31 PM
> To: Born, Clinton
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Born, Clinton wrote:
>
> > Really? I wouldn't want such a myopic view when choosing to
> > allocate our
> > shareholders dollars. Best tool for the job. Period!
>
> That is not as easy as you make it out to be.  WHat one might in the
> short term see as the best tool may not be such in 2 years when
> support is dropped and you are in a forced obsolescence and have to
> replace it with something else...  So making value judgments like
> tools that are known to be well supported on FReeBSD for example is
> part of determining the best tool for the job
>
> Chad
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Amitabh Kant
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM
> > To: Nikolas Britton
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
> >
> > And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for
> > recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few different
> > companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that
> > have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID
> > cards.
> >
> > On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are
> >> pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work
> >> on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve
> >> it's
> >> uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor
> >> doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open
> >> documentation.
> >>
> >
> > I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether
> > to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their
> > product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with our
> > money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support
> > *BSD.
> >
> > Amitabh
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