usleepless at usleepless at
Thu Apr 6 14:20:39 UTC 2006

how about one of the LiveCDs? or don't they work like knoppix/ubuntu
auto configuring the most important hardware ( inputdevices, audio,
video ) ?



On 4/6/06, eoghan <freebsd at> wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran <wmoran at> wrote:
> >> "Tom" <tzons at> wrote:
> >>> I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
> >>> have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
> >>> more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
> >>> earned dollars.
> >>>
> >>> My first question is where can I find a site that will list
> >>> all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
> >>> "box" (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
> >>> patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
> >>> to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
> >>> someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
> >>> website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
> >>> a "BSD for idiots" instruction book that's current? Is there a
> >>> BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
> >>> successes?  Help!
> >> Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
> >> this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
> >> you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
> >> 1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
> >> 2) You're coming from a Windows world
> >> 3) You don't have time or patience
> >>
> >> #3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
> >> take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
> >> effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
> >> totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.
> >>
> >> If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
> >> setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
> >> and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
> >> curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
> >> going to find it by switching operating systems to something
> >> you know nothing about.
> >>
> >> I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
> >> they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
> >> have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
> >> Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
> >> experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.
> >
> > No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.
> >
> >   * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
> >   * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
> >   * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.
> >
> > Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
> > I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.
> >
> > Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
> > switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)
> >
> > - Giorgos
> Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the
> other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped
> windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble
> installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am up
> and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
> So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till
> you get comfortable, and then go for it.
> Eoghan
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