Adaptec AAC raid support

[Jason Crawford]

You don't offer freedom of choice, what you offer is a binary-only
solution, THAT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION, for that card. If you really did
stand for freedom of choice, then you would have started pushing to
open documentation way before this. Locking your users into only one
way of doing something sure as hell isn't choice. I'd like to choose
what management software I use, driver I use, etc... which I cannot do
with this binary-only solution. There isn't really different kinds of
freedom, freedom is freedom, I should be free to chose what management
utility I use just like what card I use, which you have taken away by
supporting a vendor's choice to lock up their customers. You, sir, do
not support freedom of choice, and it appears that Adaptec doesn't
either.


On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:40:01 -0700, Scott Long <scottl at samsco.org> wrote:
> Ben Goren wrote:
> > On 2005 Mar 19, at 1:50 PM, Scott Long wrote:
> >
> >> Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard?
> >
> >
> > If I own the plane, I expect to have all official service manuals,
> > bulletins, etc. The FAA expects me to have them, too, or else I'm in
> > *deep* trouble. Do you really think that, for example, Southwest
> > Airlines doesn't have the schematics to every Boeing 737 they fly? That
> > an experienced airline mechanic doesn't know about as much about the
> > planes as the engineers who designed them--if not more?
> >
> >> I'm saying that resources are out
> >> there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT
> >> NOW.  No, they don't meet the goals of open source, but they meet the
> >> goals of getting the job done.
> >
> >
> > No, they don't.
> >
> > You've already admitted that Adaptec firmware is full of bugs. Why
> > shouldn't we assume that the binary-only crap you're trying to push on
> > us isn't full of the same?
> >
> 
> Oh bullshit.  I didn't say anything like that.  Here's a shocker....
> OpenBSD has bugs!  And so does FreeBSD!  And so does the Space Shuttle
> guidance system.  Next time you try to put word in my mouth, try a
> little harder at it.  Jackass.
> 
> > I run OpenBSD not just because it's Free, but because its quality
> > outshines everything else. That quality is a direct result of Theo and
> > his friends being able to write, or at least tinker with, the code WITH
> > NO RESTRICTIONS.
> >
> > You offer us a compromise, not just of our freedom, but of the stability
> > of our systems and the security of our data. Why should we accept either?
> >
> 
> I offer freedom of choice.
> 
> This has gone about in the direction that I figured it would.  I don't
> speak for Adaptec, and I never have.  I've supported them in the past,
> and I support the friendships that I have there now.  If the goals of
> OpenBSD are political purity of software openness, that's wonderful.
> Take your freedom of choice and do what you want with it.  Stop going
> around screaming and yelling and acting like a 3 year old because others
> won't give you stuff that you think you deserve.
> 
> Scott
> 
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