To update all installed ports with protupgrade (not portmanager) will I need "portupgrade -ra" or portupgrade -rRa" ? This will be done _after_ running the gnome_update.sh script ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja