Demon license?

Greg 'groggy' Lehey grog at
Mon Jul 18 22:28:28 GMT 2005

On Monday, 18 July 2005 at  2:23:45 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> On  Monday, July 18, 2005 1:53 AM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday, 18 July 2005 at  1:12:12 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
>>> On  Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:14 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>>> The daemon is copyright of Kirk McKusick <mckusick at>.
>>>> You should ask him for permission.  In general he gives it if the
>>>> usage is BSD-related, as it appears to be in this case.
>>> Strictly speaking, the IMAGES of the daemon that are on the
>>> website are what is copyrighted.  Nothing is stopping
>>> someone from drawing a 'devil' image and associating it with
>>> FreeBSD.
>> I no longer speak for the FreeBSD project, but we have never wanted to
>> be associated with devils.  I'm sure we would object if someone drew a
>> 'devil' image and associated it with FreeBSD.
> Oh, you must think yourself very clever for that bit of deliberate
> misinterpretation.  I hope you don't let it go to your head.

This isn't misinterpretation.  They're your words.  You've been around
the project for a long time, but you still don't understand how
important it is to us to refer to the daemon correctly.

> On a more serious note, the userbase is objecting to certain members
> of The Project wanting to jettison the daemon image, and replace it
> with an image of a stuffed Teddy Bear (or something equally
> politically correct) so in the absense of the Project having much
> respect for what the userbase wants in the area of FreeBSD images,
> you can hardly expect the userbase to have much respect for what the
> Project wants in the area of FreeBSD images, now can you?

I must be out of touch.  I haven't seen any of this.

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