Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC chad at
Fri Feb 11 20:16:59 PST 2005

On Feb 11, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

> Robert Marella writes:
>> As far as the codebase question, he was not the one to bring it up. If
>> I can read between his lines, I understand that when you go in front
>> of the suits you can't tell them RTFM. You have to explain why FreeBSD
>> is head and shoulders above the leader of the pack.
> Yes.  Things to remember if you must present FreeBSD to "suits" (not an
> exhaustive list):
> - You must provide sound arguments and/or hard data to support your
> suggestions.  "FreeBSD is just great!" will not do.
> - You must provide costs.  "It's free" won't do.  Nothing is ever free.
>  If you don't have costs, either you aren't being serious, or you
>  haven't done your homework.
> - You cannot killfile anyone who asks questions that you don't like.
> - Calling the suits stupid because they refuse to unconditionally agree
> with you guarantees failure.  Do not throw tantrums.
> - You must be confident, but not arrogant.  Stick to your guns when you
> are discussing something that you know to be objectively true, but do
> not argue about opinions.
> - You must know exactly what point you wish to make to the suits, and
> you must stick to it.  A long discussion of how much you love Beastie
> will not impress.
> - You need to leave documentation with them, including a copy of your
> presentation.
> - You need to explain how they will obtain support when something goes
> wrong.  "Nothing ever goes wrong!" will not work.
> - You need to explain how FreeBSD will fit in with their IT strategy.
> It's up to you to research this; it is not up to them to figure it out.
> - Don't knock the competition unless you can objectively back up what
> you say (even then, be judicious).
> - Be prepared to address legal issues, such as licensing, patents, and
> copyrights.
> - If you say "If you don't like it this way, go somewhere else," they
> will.

This is all very well and good, but is irrelevant to the earlier 
discussion.  You are not a Suit we are trying to impress or get to use 
FreeBSD.  You are on a general technical support mailing list and 
"behavior" here is different than would be in a formal presentation or 
even official support mechanism.


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