Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC chad at
Fri Feb 11 14:26:04 PST 2005

On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
>> many in no way means a majority.  many is more than a few, where a few
>> is a handful (3-5 or so).  There are probably more than a handful who
>> do it as more than a hobby.  A lot of good people do it on their own
>> time as well, and I salute that.  But a lot of people like Yahoo and
>> others (Apple probably) submit stuff that ends up in FreeBSD and they
>> pay their people to do so.  Lots of features, like jails as I
>> understand it, started off by someone getting paid to implement stuff.
> I hope people are not being as careless as you imply.  Being paid to
> write code as an employee means relinguishing copyright in the code to
> one's employer.  If people are actually doing this for FreeBSD, then
> some of the code in FreeBSD is owned by their employers, which can
> become a legal nightmare and stop the project dead in its tracks
> overnight.  Aren't there any _lawyers_ working on this project?

As an example

from "man jail"

      The jail feature was written by Poul-Henning Kamp for R&D 
Associates who contributed it to FreeBSD.

I would assume, but I do not know, that Poul-Henning Kamp was paid for 
his work.  Then R&D Associates contributed it to FreeBSD.

I think I have read here that Yahoo has also rolled stuff back into the 
main line source (I do not have first hand knowledge of this).

Apple also rolls stuff back into the BSD source trees.

They do so knowingly and with appropriate legalese


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