topposting (was: colourization in ls command)
Tom Connolly
tomc at cqg.com
Fri Oct 15 12:33:45 PDT 2004
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2004-10-15 09:35, Tom Connolly <tomc at cqg.com> wrote:
>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 12 October 2004 at 17:09:29 -0600, Tom Connolly wrote:
>>>> There is a nice little tool for Outlook users, [...]
>>>>
>>>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
>>>
>>> We've seen the results of this tool in the recent past. They
>>> weren't convincing.
>>>
>>> Are you aware that your message was formatted with long/short lines?
>>
>> Looks ok to me.
>
> Sorry but no; Greg is right. Your post *did* exhibit the long/short
> line bug of Outlook.
>
> That's the problem with most of the email that Outlook sends, isn't
> it? It looks ok to the poster but not to the reader. Long/short
> lines that Greg referred to is a common symptom of Outlook-formatted
> (or, to be more precise, `unformatted', if I am excused for the pun)
> messages.
>
> You, as the poster write a paragraph that seems perfectly fine when
> wrapper in your preview window in Outlook, but eventually the reader
> of your post has to make sense out of something like this:
>
> ----- Original message -----
> Sender: Firstname Lastname
> Sent: Oct 15, 2004
> Subject: Useless repetition of the subject, which is only a
> waste of bandwidth for people with a good, threading
> mail user-agent
> To: Person1; Person2; Person3
> Cc: Person4; Person5
>
> > Some of the original text is included here, most of the time
> everything the original
> > poster has said is included verbatim, without any sort of
> trimming
> > and a funny wrapping style like this mess you
> are reading now.
>
> I can't even begin to describe how many things are stupid about this
> format of replying. The stripping of *real* email addresses, the
> redundant and excessive inclusion of header information in the
> attribution paragraph, the fact that the attribution *is* a
> paragraph, the silly wrapping style, etc. are only a few of the evil
> things this mailer does. Unfortunately, despite having discussed
> this with Windows users many times and tested various tools, hacks
> and add-ons with many of them, I still haven't found one that fixes
> all the bugs in Outlook's formatting of mail messages;
> ``outlook-quotefix'' is not an exception to this.
>
> What is very wrong about the wrapping style of Outlook (or the lack of
> one) is that Outlook users might never become aware of it. Just like
> you didn't know about it until Greg pointed it out ;-)
>
> Giorgos
That's all true but at least it solves the topposting problem which is what
most
People seemed to be complaining about. :)
Tom
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