FreeBSD weakness.

[Muhammad Reza]

BSD cant do multipath routing behind NAT, just like iproute(8) Linux,
hope Paul Hening Kamp Patch will work...

regards
reza

>> Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft.
>> BSD is for people who love Unix.
>
>
> Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux...
>
> Seriously, one thing that catches my attention is that I don't see any 
> really great differences between the BSD (Any version) and the Linux 
> community. In doing some reading, it appears that the people at KDE 
> and Gnome, as well as many others, have this same thought. I was 
> actually pointed in the FreeBSD direction by a magazine writer whom I 
> was communicating with about the future of Linux. We talked by email 
> and he thought that FreeBSD had to most promise of a good future. He 
> suggested that I should check FreeBSD out.
>
> Understand that learning UNIX is not my end goal. It may happen in the 
> process, but being a master of the UNIX system is not my end goal. Nor 
> is writing programs my goal. I wrote a ton of programs 20 years ago, 
> but I haven't written a single line of code in 10 years. I have no 
> wish to work in an IT shop anywhere. My goal is simply to keep some of 
> my older computers useful. I care less about which operating system I 
> am using as long as it does the job that I want. This business of 
> buying new computers every year or two is a Micro$oft idea. It is also 
> an idea that needs to be re-thought.
>
> Micro$oft is great about jumping onto new technology with half-baked 
> software. When they get close to fixing their software, then they 
> abandon it for new technology and more half-baked software expecting 
> people to buy the new hardware/software. It's a system that Micro$oft 
> can't be beaten at. I simply think that it is time for a change.
>
> (I'm not against new ideas. But I hate keeping up with Mr. Gates.)
>
> Lloyd Hayes
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> Tom McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Lloyd Hayes wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. 
>>>> I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start 
>>>> getting errors again....
>>>>
>>>> So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the 
>>>> reviews posted there about the books, people were complaining about 
>>>> weak documentation, too much information about things that they 
>>>> were not interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems 
>>>> to be the most common complaint. In my very short recent history 
>>>> with FreeBSD, I've formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is 
>>>> it's greatest weakness. FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type 
>>>> to write a good book for beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A 
>>>> book is needed with examples that actually WORK! Examples that are 
>>>> explained in plain English. There seems to be very few books on 
>>>> FreeBSD around.
>>>>
>>> Beginners who never seen UNIX coude shouldn't start with FreeBSD in 
>>> the first place, if you ask me. They should start Mandrake Linux or 
>>> SuSe or something of the sorts. FreeBSD isn't made to make an "user 
>>> friendly" operating system, as Mandrake Linux is aiming at. You just 
>>> have to know some Unix stuff before you even start with FreeBSD.
>>>
>>
>> I would have to disgree having my first *nix experience five years ago
>> with Mandrake and switching to FreeBSD a number of months ago. I
>> switched to FreeBSD because I felt my unix skills were getting rusty. 
>> When I started with Mandrake I did most of my system configuration and
>> administration from the command line and I learned a lot of unix in
>> those first few years.
>> Over time with the inclusion of more GUI based tools that became
>> harder. Files seemed to keep moving or configuration was spread across
>> too many files. I believe you end up becomming too dependant on the
>> distribution specific configuration tools with Linux and you don't
>> truely learn the system. For anyone who really wants to learn unix the
>> BSDs are the place to start.
>>
>> Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft.
>> BSD is for people who love Unix.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have the book on the below link, and I must say it is very very 
>>> good. Good examples and clearly elaborated, though it lacks in-depth 
>>> information, which might be handy for more advanced users. It's good 
>>> for beginners who are comfortable in a Unix or Linux enviroment. Why 
>>> don't you give that one a shot?
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224096/104-0798845-8369533?v=glance 
>>>
>>>
>>> And what about our own FreeBSD Handbook? Don't tell me that that is 
>>> bad, because there is book that can beat it if you ask me.
>>>
>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jorn
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