problem while installing FreeBSD
Jerry McAllister
jerrymc at clunix.cl.msu.edu
Fri Jul 16 14:34:42 PDT 2004
>
> You will actually need "volume magic" instead of partition magic I believe.
> Unless the product has changed partition magic will not work with the server
> OS's from Microsoft.
I used it with Win 2000 and XP-pro, but not win 2003.
I had no problems with those two. But, I had to make the PM boot
floppies as it tells in the PM instructions. I made those under Win 2K
and they worked fine for both and to look at another machine delievered
with no OS on it.
I haven't heard of "Vo.ume Magic".
////jerry
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bawan [mailto:bawan at baldwinresearch.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 5:17 PM
> > To: 'Jerry McAllister'
> > Cc: 'Steve Bertrand'; freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD
> >
> >
> > I deleted the partition and made 1.5Gb of DOS partition. I
> > made two floppy
> > disks as per the instruction. When installing, it read first
> > floppy and ask
> > for second and After that I get kernel configuration menu, I
> > treid "skip
> > kernel" other "configure kernel in visual mode". After "save"
> > option, it
> > says rebooting...and after reboot, I don't get Sysconfig
> > menu. When I remove
> > disk, it boots to dos and when I reboot without removing
> > disk, it says
> >
> > >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
> > Default:0:fd(0,a)/kernel
> > Boot:
> >
> > I don't what to do after this. I am windows guy and this is
> > my first FreeBSD
> > installation.
> > Its kind of frustration for me now. Please help. Do I have to
> > format the dos
> > partition without loading OS on it or what.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc at clunix.cl.msu.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:38 PM
> > To: Bawan
> > Cc: 'Steve Bertrand'; freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: problem while installing FreeBSD
> >
> > >
> > > It's the same problem when I remove CD. Does it make sense: I am
> > installing
> > > on the machine which already have Windows 2003 server, and
> > file system
> > NTFS.
> > > I thought FreeBSD may take care of this file system or it
> > may allow me to
> > do
> > > partition while installing. Thanks.
> >
> > Oh. Did you use something to resize the disk slices before
> > you started
> > the install? FreeBSD will only install [correctly] into empty space
> > on the disk or wipe out everything and install over the top of the
> > whole thing. It will not resize the NTFS slice for you.
> >
> > If you want to install FreeBSD on the machine as a dual-boot system
> > and keep the preinstalled Win2k stuff running, then you need to
> > shrink the NTFS down to make room for FreeBSD.
> >
> > A disk can have up to 4 primary slices (which MS calls
> > 'partitions', by
> > the way) that are numbered 1..4. Generally if you buy a machine and
> > it has something MS preinstalled on it, that MS stuff takes
> > all of the
> > disk and makes it one slice, leaving 3 logically to work with, but no
> > room for them.
> >
> > If the system was from some vendor like Dell, they might have
> > also put a
> > slice with their own diagnostics on the machine, thus using
> > two slices
> > and leaving only 2 slices that can be created. The diagnostic slice
> > usually is very small and MS takes the rest of the disk.
> >
> > Now, if you want to add FreeBSD and still keep the MS (and
> > possibly the
> > diagnostic) slice[s] you need to shrink the MS slice to make room to
> > create another slice, using one of the remaining slice numbers. (The
> > diagnostic slice would be to small to bother with and should just be
> > left alone)
> >
> > If you need to shrink the NTFS slice, then you need something like
> > Partition Magic which is put out by Power Quest to do that before
> > you start with the FreeBSD installation. If it was a FAT or FAT32
> > slice, there are some free utilities that can be used, but the last
> > I knew, they would not safely handle NTFS. Partition Magic seems
> > to be the most readily available one that can handle shrinking NTFS.
> > It is not free, but is pretty cheap. You can usually find it at
> > such places as Best Buy and Circuit City in the USA and by some
> > online stores. The price was about $69 US.
> >
> > When you get it,
> > - take the CD and make the two floppies according to
> > the instructions. Forget trying to use it by installing it.
> > - Then boot from the floppies.
> > - Look around until you are familiar and clear what you already
> > have on disk.
> > - Shrink the NTFS slice from the top - eg don't try to make room
> > before it, make it at the end of the NTFS slice.
> > - Have Partition Magic complete its pending operations - just quit
> > and say yes to its questions about completing them.
> > - Boot up again from the floppies.
> > - Create a new primary slice out of the new empty space and make
> > it an unspecified (unknown) type (or maybe FAT32 might also be OK).
> > but don't make it any kind of extended slice or other MS sort of
> > thing.
> > - Again make it complete pending operations.
> > - At this time you should be able to install FreeBSD in the newly
> > created slice. When you do, make sure that is what you select
> > and not the 'use the whole disk' option. It will be slice 2 if
> > there is only MS already on the disk and slice 3 if there is both
> > a diagnostic slice and an MS slice. If you also have Linux or
> > something else there as well, it might be slice 4. If there are
> > already 4 slices being used on the disk, you can't do it without
> > getting rid of something first.
> > - During the part in the FreeBSD install where you choose the slice
> > and create it, first you should might want to tell it to delete
> > the new slice and then create it again - it will use only
> > the empty
> > space. You shouldn't have to do this I don't think, but I have
> > had trouble in the past if I just tried to accept the slice as it
> > was created by Partition Magic without having FreeBSD do it too.
> > Then, make sure you tell it to make the slice bootable by selecting
> > that slice and choosing that option.
> >
> > After all this, then you go on to make UNIX partitions within that
> > slice with the disklabel editor - using the one built in to the
> > sysinstall, preferably.
> >
> > NOTE, that both MS and Partion Magic refer to the slices as
> > partitions.
> > Just remember that Partition Magic works on slices in FreeBSD
> > parlance.
> > In FreeBSD, partitions are subdivisions of slices. That can get a
> > little confusing.
> >
> > Unfortunately in FreeBSD (at least in 4.xx) there are still a
> > few places
> > where the word partition is used when it means slice too. Most of the
> > documentation, and especially the man pages have been cleaned
> > up in 5.xx
> > but I noticed a place or two in the messages used during the
> > disk building
> > that still use the terms incorrectly.
> >
> > Now, all this long harrangue may be moot if you do not want
> > to keep the
> > MS system available on the disk as a dual boot. In that case, you
> > just choose 'Use the whole disk for one big FreeBSD slice' option and
> > let it wipe out everything that is already there. Or, use Partition
> > Magic to delete the MS slice, but still keep the diagnostic slice if
> > there is one and you want to keep it.
> >
> > Or, if you have already managed to wipe out the MS stuff (not
> > a bad idea
> > actually) but you didn't really mean to, you need to install it back
> > on the disk before doing the Partition Magic stuff and then
> > the FreeBSD
> > stuff.
> >
> > Maybe this will help.
> >
> > ////jerry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:iaccounts at ibctech.ca]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:24 AM
> > > To: Bawan
> > > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I tried with options Start kernel configuration and Skip Kernel
> > > > Configuration and have same result. Keyboard is not
> > getting "off" even I
> > > > do
> > > > cold boot, but system start and same thing repeats.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It sounds like you still have the CD in the drive...Did you
> > follow the
> > > instruction to "Remove any removable media from the
> > drive.." before you
> > > rebooted the machine?
> > >
> > > Remove the CD (if it is in the CD drive) and boot from the hard disk
> > > instead.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > > My computer description is:
> > > >
> > > > API Multiprocessor PC
> > > > NVDIA RIVA TNT2 Model display card
> > > > NIC 3COM (3c905c-TX)
> > > > Processors:
> > > > AMD Athlon (tm) MP 1900+
> > > > AMD Athlon (tm) MP 1900+
> > > >
> > > > SCSI and RAID Controller:
> > > > SX6000(tm) IDE RAID Controller
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know if you need anymore hardware information.
> > > > Note: I am installing from CD, do you think I have to try
> > installing
> > from
> > > > FTP.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:iaccounts at ibctech.ca]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:47 AM
> > > > To: Bawan
> > > > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD
> > > >
> > > >> I just started installing it. There is no any extra peripheral
> > connected
> > > >> to
> > > >> it. I think I am on first step, I am suppose to get
> > Sysinstall menu
> > > >> after
> > > >> reboot, but it gets stuck after saying rebooting...
> > > >
> > > > When replying to a post, please ensure you Cc: the list, so that
> > everyone
> > > > following the thread knows what is happening. It is also
> > beneficial to
> > > > knew users who 'lurk' but haven't yet posted that may be
> > having similar
> > > > issues.
> > > >
> > > > Now, back to the subject...
> > > >
> > > > If you've already installed FBSD, sysinstall should not
> > come back up by
> > > > default. The machine should boot, then you should be
> > dropped right at
> > the
> > > > command prompt.
> > > >
> > > > If I understand correctly, the last message you see is
> > 'Rebooting...'?
> > If
> > > > this is so, what happens after a cold boot? Post the
> > messages where it
> > > > gets stuck.
> > > >
> > > > Also, this may be a good time to post your hardware
> > (mobo, NIC, and
> > > > additional info).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:iaccounts at ibctech.ca]
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:07 AM
> > > >> To: Bawan
> > > >> Cc: freebsd-questions.org at ibctech.ca
> > > >> Subject: Re: problem while installing FreeBSD
> > > >>
> > > >>> I am installing FreeBSD 4.10 from CD. The computer hung up after
> > > >>> rebooting
> > > >>> and I am not getting Probe result. Computer and
> > keyboard seems to be
> > > >>> hung
> > > >>> up.
> > > >>
> > > >> Where exactly is it hung? What is the last few lines of
> > output that is
> > > >> displayed?
> > > >>
> > > >> Do you have any extra peripherals plugged in (ie.
> > scanner, camera, CF
> > > >> cards etc)? If so, unplug all unneccisary devices and try to boot
> > again.
> > > >>
> > > >> Steve
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I don't see any conflicting devices on my computer.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Can you help me on this?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> bawan
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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