5.2.1-RC1 and RC2

[Scott W]

ian j hart wrote:

>On Monday 16 February 2004 3:16 am, Kent Stewart wrote:
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>>On Sunday 15 February 2004 07:04 pm, Chris wrote:
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>>>On Sunday 15 February 2004 09:00 pm, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
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>>>>Chris wrote:
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>>>>>Is is me? Or has something changed in 5.2 that tends to make
>>>>>systems freeze up during portupgrade? Mainly - KDE-3.2.0
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>>>>>That being said, I seem to be seeing this more often on other
>>>>>upgrades. Strange thing is, I considered it to be my PC however,
>>>>>I never seem to run into the total freeze when doing a
>>>>>buildworld.
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>>>>No trouble here upgrading 5.2 to current on my desktop and no
>>>>trouble upgrading my 5.2p1 to 5.2RC2 on my server.  I suspect your
>>>>problem is hardware or driver related.
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>>>>Tom Veldhouse
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>>>Tom,
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>>>	My upgrades (5.2.1 -> 5.2.1-RC1 -> 5.2.1-RC2) went flawless. The
>>>issues I'm having is during portupgrade.
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>>>Kent,
>>>	Interesting - I did as you advised. I am typically running between
>>>113 and 125 degrees (F) My AMD did come with a fan. Perchance I ought
>>>to look into alternative cooling?
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>>Mine ran like that for 53 weeks. The warranty was for 52. When it died,
>>it litterally blew one of the voltage regulator ICs on the motherboard.
>>All I saw was a flash of light at the same time as a loud bang and the
>>top right corner of the IC disappeared. Out was towards me but I didn't
>>feel it hit nor could I find it.
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>Much as I love AMD, I would have to agree about the fans. I bought boxed CPUs 
>with fans as I expected that this would provide the right level of cooling 
>(and reliability). IIRC the warranty was 2 years. When the first one went 
>"wobbly" I replaced the lot. It's just not worth taking the chance.
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>To the OP, re temperatures. I wouldn't rely too much on what other peoples 
>systems report.
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>The actual temperature of the CPU is going to depend on the speed and CPU core 
>architecture (and maybe the BIOS) vs the ambient temp/cooling.
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>This is as opposed to the temperature reported. The accuracy is going vary 
>with method (chip) which means, which M/B. I somehow doubt the sensors are 
>individually calibrated against a lab standard.
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>If you can find somone with the same CPU/Motherboard, those numbers would be 
>slightly more useful.
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>As a counter example my 2100+/Gigabyte GA-VTXE+ (BIOS F6a) sits at 54C idle 
>and around 60C when busy. It's perfectly stable (on stable, not current).
>[With fvcool idle temp = 30C]
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>If I forget to clean the filters, the temperature will rise, and the system 
>becomes increasingly unstable. A few degrees increase is enough.
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>My advice is to clean any filters, fans and heatsinks and check the fans spin 
>correctly. If the box runs cooler, note the temperature for future reference.
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>>The current fans look like the Antec fans you can see in a Circuit City
>>or Best Buy. You can mail order them but I think I would buy one sooner
>>than that :). You have been having problems for quite a while now and
>>that may be what is going on.
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>>Kent
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Oops, forgot to add on last post...in case anyone is looking for CPU 
temps..I've monitored a _lot_ of CPU temps on different systems, and the 
previous poster is right- different systems definitely run at different 
CPU temps, even with the same CPU and CPU fans, and I'd also question 
the CPU and MB temps themselves within ~5* as far as being 'accurate' 
against a standard....but FWIW, on a Tyan S2466-N MB, dual Althon MP 
2000+ with the ThermalTake Silent Boost fans (PITA to get on this MB BTW 
;-( ), claimed CPU Temps via BIOS after a week+ uptime and some large 
compiles putting load on the system, CPU Temp rarely goes above 55*C 
(reported), after compiling for several hours (KDE in this case).

Scott