Items missing from the handbook and/or FAQs.

Bill Moran wmoran at
Mon Apr 26 10:25:37 PDT 2004

Joe Rhett wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:55:58AM -0700, K. Greenwood wrote:
>>While I may not be well versed in *bsd, if Debian is
>>working for you, great... use it!
> This isn't a personal project on a home computer.  I work on whatever
> platform my client asks me to work on.

Then you need to conform to the community mores of that platform ...
or subcontract someone who will

>>If you have a direct complaint regarding the
>>documentation... PR it.  If it's accepted, all the
>>better for everyone!  If it is not accepted, either
>>persevere, or give up.  Endless commentary will serve
>>nothing (or you are a somewhat successful troll...).
> Ah... got it.
> So from this point forward I'll keep my comments to myself, instead of
> going out of my way to bring things to the attention of those that can fix
> them.  Didn't realize FreeBSD doesn't care about those things, but I've
> certainly gotten that impression direct and clear over the last few days.

Please don't twist words into hate.

First off, I don't think K. Greenweed was speaking officially for the
FreeBSD project, so you should not take his words to be any official

Secondly (and more importantly) I believe his point is that the way things
get fixed is through PRs ... whether or not you have patches is not the
point.  If you don't file a PR, it probably won't get fixed.  If you do
file a PR, you have something to ping people about (i.e. "Hey, has anyone
looked at fixing PR/####?")
While PRs that include patches are preferred, there's nothing to stop you
from filing a PR that simply lists the things that are lacking in the
handbook.  It's likely to take a LOT longer to get handled, but you can
still do it.

This is _not_ the correct forum for this kind of discussion, however.

I can imagine that you're frustrated right now, but your response is
pretty much out of line.  If you don't like FreeBSD and the way things
are done, use something else.  If your employer is forcing you to use
something you can't stand, then seek out another job and pass the work
on to someone who'd appreciate it (me, for one).

This has probably been said 10000 times, but:
FreeBSD is a free project.  If you don't like the way things are being
done, you're welcome to do them differently.  If you want someone to
do it for you, feel free to fork out some money ... I'm sure I'm not
the only consultant who likes working on FreeBSD, and likes it even
better when he's getting paid to do it.

Bill Moran
Potential Technologies

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