Items missing from the handbook and/or FAQs.

Joe Rhett jrhett at
Fri Apr 23 20:10:49 PDT 2004

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 10:36:46PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> > get rid of the ppp0 and sl0 interfaces.  The answer was to copy related
> > parameters from /etc/defaults/rc.conf to /etc/rc.conf and change them.
> > 
> > (The handbook actually does say "modify rc.conf" but it doesn't say what
> > items should be modified!)
> >
> Wrong, read
> about sl and ppp

Maybe it's just me, but would you look for bathroom cleaning information 
in a manual about your oven?  Neither would I.  If you need to edit the
kernel to disable PPP, then this should be noted in the PPP configuration

> > Also a note to create /etc/start_if.{ifname} to put the wireless options in
> > would also have saved me reading through the rc scripts.  I asusme that's a
> > general case for all interfaces, but it could bear repeating in the wireless
> > documentation. (when there is some...)
> > 
I'm not certain what you are trying to say here, since both of these
links fail to mention what I stated above.  They give you the basic
commands, but leave you with the impression that you'll have to type
these every time you want to configure the interface.  Even just a few
links to other relevant documentation would greatly improve these

> > 3. Choosing filesystem types
> > 
> > During setup you can create filesystems other than FreeBSD, but you are
> > supposed to magickally know their filesystem type numbers.  The setup
> > documenation and the fdisk tools only tell you the filesystem numbers for
> > freebsd, linux and dos.  An option to get a list would be nice.
> > Documentation of the filesystem types would be nice too. (I had to use
> > fdisk on a linux system to get the filesystem numbers I needed) 
> especially Disk Layouts for the i386

Naturally, I can browse the freebsd website while I'm partitioning the
disk... makes sense to me.

Now how about the real question I raised, which is integrated
documentation?  An option to see a list of disk types...?

> > Suggestion: put a gdm configuration script there right next to the xdm
> > configuration. The people who love twm know what to do to make it happy.
> > Forcing people who aren't in love with twm and startx to hack at and make
> > their own gdm startup scripts doesn't make much sense.
> > 
> > (yes, there is an example gdm startup script, but it won't work be default
> > and you have to search for it, edit it, move it to the proper directory,
> > etc....)
> Well XDM and KDM are covered in the Handbook, we can't cover everything.
I'm not talking about documentation, I'm talking about sensible defaults.
It's not a lack of documentation, it's a lack of useful setup scripts.

Straight up: I'm building this system to set up a test environment for a
client.  When I got done with the installation and there was no usable
windows environment and no usable mail client, and no usable network
interface ... I was pretty much ready to tell the client to find a modern

I mean, hello, Unix systems came better working out the box in the
mid-80s.  Why are we going backwards?

> > 1. How to put DHCP on the wireless card?
> > 
> > I still haven't figured this out. I run dhclient on the interface by hand
> > after every reboot and it works fine, but I'm assuming there is some 
> > standard method of telling the system that wi0 should be a dhcp-managed, right?
Alright, on this one when I re-read it I found what I was looking for.
It could be more clear, but it is there.

> > 2. What is interface faith0 ?
> > 
> > It took a ridiculous amount of searching to determine that faith0 was an
> > ipv4 -> ipv6 interface.  And I can find nothing about how to disable it.
> > (and if you say compile a new kernel and make world, excuse me while I puke)
> > 
> man faith
man faith returns information on what it is, with nothing at all about
how to enable or disable it.

Joe Rhett                                                      Chief Geek
JRhett at Isite.Net                                      Isite Services, Inc.

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