PowerMac G4 booting from memstick image

[Mehul Sanghvi]

Thank you for the explanation.  I had seen something regarding SMP on the mailing list back in March
and so thought that it might be part of the 13.0 release.

I have made USB flash drive using the 13.0 memstick image, but am unable to boot from there consistently.

The first time, I got to the dialog box asking to choose Live CD, Shell or Install.  I had waited
A while to get to that stage, having gone through several minutes of:

   Root mount waiting for: CAM

and also

   aprobe1:ata1:0:1:0 CAM status: Command timeout 


type of messages scrolling by on the screen.  

Having gotten to the point of selecting Install,  the keyboard wouldn’t work.  An Apple keyboard, hooked up via KVM switch, which was working just fine upto that moment.  

I attached the keyboard directly and tried again and now I’ve got the

   mountroot> 

prompt as it couldn’t mount /dev/da0s3 the second time around.


Making a third attempt now, so lets see what happens.  I might look at what Alfredo suggested and write the ISO to the USB stick and see if that works rather than the memstick.img


Otherwise will just keep running NetBSD till 13.1 comes out.


cheers,

    mehul



> On Apr 19, 2021, at 20:46 , Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 2021-Apr-19, at 16:34, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> . . .
>> 
>> I’ll go ahead and create an image with 13.0 and see if that works.
> 
> 13.0-RELEASE was a major change, in that 32-bit PowrePC is finally using
> modern llvm/clang-based toochain instead of a gcc 4.2.1 based toolchain.
> Effectively, pre-13.0 is not as well unsupported at this point, if I
> understand right.
> 
> In other words, it is unlikely that you would want to use a 12.x
> version at all unless you have reasons to be using the old toolchain.
> 
>>  As I understand it 13.0 handles SMP on the G4 better, and since I have a G$ with 2 CPUs, that would be better anyway.
> 
> 13.0-RELEASE does not contain code changes to deal with FreeBSD's
> PowerPC problems in that area as far as I know. There is work
> going on in/for main in the area but some of it has not been
> checked into main yet, if I understand right. The range of 32-bit
> PowerMacs covered and if your hardware is (would be) I do not know.
> 
> There are other issues as well. For example:
> 
> Unfortunately, the FreeBSD 32-bit kernel that covers PowerMacs (G3/G4)
> slowly zeros out pages of user processes that it should not touch.
> This ends up causing some processes to crash and probably other, less
> obvious, issues. It is not a reliable environment. To my knowledge,
> this area is not under active development currently but the basic
> issue of what type of thing is missing was identified some time back.
> (The 64-bit kernel that covers G5s does not have this problem.)
> 
> There is more, but the above two are fairly major items out of the
> overall list.
> 
> These issues are not unique to 13.0+ as far as I know. Using 12.x
> likely would not avoid them.
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2021, at 19:10 , Alfredo Dal'Ava Júnior <alfredo at freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mehul,
>>> 
>>> It's in the FreeBSD loader but it looks like something is wrong with the kernel, it should be loading it at this point. 
>>> 
>>> Did you try release 13.0? Please write the USB stick with disc1.iso instead, that's how I booted/installed on by G4 last time. 
>>> 
>>> []'s
>>> Alfredo
>>> 
>>> Em seg., 19 de abr. de 2021 19:56, Mehul Sanghvi <mehul.sanghvi at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>  I am trying to boot FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE from a USB stick which had the memstick image on it.
>>> 
>>>  I can get to the OF boot prompt, but how do I boot from there ?  
>>> 
>>>  The USB stick is located at the devalias usb0 as far as I can tell.
>>> 
>>>  What would the boot command be ?  Looking at https://i.redd.it/0ypv6vmi63231.jpg it seems I need some arguments, but I don’t know where or how to find them.
>>> 
>>>   The Handbook has instructions on how to create a memstick.img but nothing that I could find regarding how to boot from it.
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> ===
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
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> away in early 2018-Mar)
>