these are the sort of things that would fry a new user

Michael Tuexen tuexen at
Sun Nov 18 09:11:29 UTC 2018

> On 17. Nov 2018, at 23:51, Dennis Clarke <dclarke at> wrote:
> On 11/17/18 4:04 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote:
>>> On 17. Nov 2018, at 09:56, Dennis Clarke <dclarke at> wrote:
>>> On 11/17/18 3:46 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote:
>>>>> On 17. Nov 2018, at 04:34, Dennis Clarke <dclarke at> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>>> eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o
>>>>> Shared object "" not found, required by "pkg"
>>>>> eris#
>>>>> really ?
>>>> Unfortunately, yes. Right now.
>>>> During the release process, OpenSSL was upgraded. Not all package builders
>>>> seems to be in sync. Please note that PowerPC is not a Tier 1 platform...
>>> Yep .. regardless I tossed 12.0b3 out an air lock and started over with
>>> rc1.  Building pkg from ports works fine. Seems to. Oddly rc1 still
>>> reports as BETA3 :
>>> eris#
>>> eris# uname -a
>>> FreeBSD eris 12.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 12.0-BETA3 r340039 GENERIC  powerpc
>> That revision is beta3:
>> Are you sure you installed the RC1 image?
> ummm .. yeah ... I think so. er ... nope. drat.
> I fetched and burned FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-dvd1.iso from
> and well gee
> I did not boot it live and check what it had to say. I could give that a
> shot. Also in the install phase I didn't drop to a shell and run this:
>   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ada bs=8192 count=1048576
> That is overkill but it writes zeros to the first 16M sectors of the
> disk. I had done that in the past to move from Debian Linux over to
> FreeBSD merely to be super sure that there wasn't anything nasty hiding
> on some cyl0 area or some other silly bits.
> I'll boot the dbd live and see what it says.
> Yeah ... somehow managed to do an install and NOT do an install.
> root at eris:~ # uname -a
> FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC  powerpc
> That looks better.
Yepp. One mystery less...
>>> eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o | sort -r
>>> 1542444839 dialog4ports 0.1.6 ports-mgmt/dialog4ports
>>> 1542444137 pkg 1.10.5_5 ports-mgmt/pkg
>>> eris#
>>> I still am not sure where we stand on the whole kern.smp.disabled issue
>>> but that is another matter.
>> As I reported earlier:
>> Disabling SMP with head gives a system behaving nicely. Enabling SMP and
>> reverting r334498 gives me a usable system, with two limitation I observed
>> so far:
> Hold on .. you say "head" and I can only assume that means some current
> dev rev hiding somewhere. I know that in the Apache world I build from
> trunk just fine as they like to say "trunk" whereas here in FreeBSD land
> the word seems to be "head".  Wherefore is this wonderful fountain of
> code?  :-)   I am more than happy ( delighted in fact ) to fetch sources
> and build and test and figure out bits needed. Certainly on not_x86.
Just checkout the code in via svn.
This is where development happens.

I'm building kernel/world on the PowerMac...
>> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0
>>    gets them down again. After a while they will start to get
>>    louder again.
> Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here.
OK. Which PowerMac are you using?

Best regards
>> 2. When shutting down the system,
>>    Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufdaemon' to stop...
>>    Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-1' to stop...
>>    Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-0' to stop...
>>    times out.
>> Best regards
>> Michael
> Thank you for the input and help here. I think that perhaps ppc64 could
> and even should be up in tier-1 given that state of IBM servers these
> days but some effort and support is merely needed.
> Dennis

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