after running the installer on a PowerMac G5 no root filesystem found

Michael Tuexen Michael.Tuexen at
Thu Nov 15 22:19:42 UTC 2018

> On 15. Nov 2018, at 22:39, Andreas Tobler <andreast-list at> wrote:
> On 15.11.18 21:47, Mark Millard wrote:
>> On 2018-Nov-15, at 12:13, Andreas Tobler <andreast-list at> wrote:
>>> On 15.11.18 21:05, Michael Tuexen wrote:
>>>>> . . .
>>>> OK, I did some testing. Reverting r334498 and not disabling smp results
>>>> in a usable, stable system. However, there are two things I observed that
>>>> are not working as good as with disabling smp:
>>>> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0
>>>>    gets them down again. After a while they will start to get
>>>>    louder again.
>>>>    When SMP is disabled, this is not an issue.
>>> pmac_therm gets stuck, we already had that, r329080 tried to fix this.
>>> It worked a while but now things are back to worse.
>> In my context somethings things go for weeks without
>> this happening. I also have more trouble with such from
>> debug kernel builds than from non-debug ones. I normally
>> run non-debug kernels unless I'm trying to track down
>> some issue.
>> For non-debug kernels rebooting (shutdown -r now) does
>> seem to initially clear the condition.
>> This has been a fairly long term issue.
>>>> 2. When shutting down the system,
>>>>    Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufdaemon' to stop...
>>>>    Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-1' to stop...
>>>>    Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspacedaemon-0' to stop...
>>>>    times out.
>>>>    This is also not an issue when SMP is disabled.
>>>> So there are some issue with SMP even when reverting r334498.
>>> I second the two points above, iow I see the same on different SMP G5 running 64-bit. For me both are related.
>> I've seen this and, as I remember, it has been under debug kernels
>> instead of non-debug ones. Since I normally run non-debug kernels,
>> I normally do not see this.
>> The powerpc's involved are still based on -r339076. The prior
>> context  with much use was long before that, predating -r334498
>> as well. I do not remember seeing this before the jump to
>> -r339076 .
>> So I expect this is somewhat new.
>> I can not comment much on having smp disabled. The only time
>> that I've had such was the jump to -r339076 until I identified
>> reverting -r334498 as how to get back to a nearly
>> historically-normal context.
> I usually run GENERIC64-NODEBUG and it is happening. I'm on r340261+, maybe I should allocate a weekend for bisecting once more :(
I see this also on a non-debug kernel using:

tuexen at bsd4:~/head/sys/powerpc/conf % cat TCP-NODEBUG 

options		TCPHPTS

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