mail/mailman v3?
Dan Langille
dan at langille.org
Tue Apr 28 14:34:30 UTC 2020
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Dan Langille wrote:
> > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Kurt Jaeger <pi at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> >> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 being Python 3 compatible:
> >>
> >> Do you know of any plans to port Mailman 3?
> >
> > There's already a PR about that:
> >
> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225543
>
> Now 2 years old I see. Good start.
>
> > The patch itself is fine, but we need run-tests.
> >
> > This means: If you want to help,
> > - use that patch,
> > - build mailman3,
> > - and install it somewhere and
> > - test all the use-cases that you can think of
> > - then write some docs on how to move an existing mailman2 site
> > to mailman3
>
> I'm guessing that's over and above what I found at:
>
> https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html
>
>
> > - and give ideas how to handle list archives
> > *especially* keeping the URLs identical (!)
>
> I think the existing archives are static HTML. I have some archives dating
> back to 1999: https://www.unixathome.org/adsl/
>
> There might be some server-side rewrites or aliases to ensure that this
> URL always works, before and after mailman3:
>
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html <https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html>
>
> Let's compare 2 and 3 lists:
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/
> <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/>
>
> https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/
> <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>
>
> They are distinct (ignoring the hostname differences) so keeping the
> old alongside the new should be safe.
>
> > And, speaking as one of the postmaster@ team:
> > As lists.freebsd.org uses mailman2, we need this!
> >
> > postmaster@ has not yet decided if we really want to move to mailman3,
> > so we are open to other options. The mail archive is the biggest hurdle 8-(
>
> Yes, we can't lose those. I have my own archives to support.
I see the mailman lists themselves are now on Mailman 3:
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-announce@python.org/thread/HHQN7V6NY7G5CTOSC3WBU7VXW5KEBGVO/
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Dan Langille
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