Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

Chris H bsd-lists at
Fri Sep 29 18:09:59 UTC 2017

On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:38:36 +0000 Carmel NY <carmel_ny at> wrote

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:00:02 +0000, Thomas Mueller stated:
> >Excerpt from Jan Beich:
> >
> >> Why did portupgrade skip rebuilding print/harfbuzz-icu before building
> >> editors/libreoffice? The dependency trees of most desktop applications
> >> are so complex that the build falls apart if the upgrade tools aren't
> >> robust enough e.g., ignore MOVED or PORTREVISION bumps.  
> >         
> >> In short, this is a reminder portmaster/portupgrade are NOT supported.
> >> Users are on their own debugging such issues.  
> >
> >What is the current status of portupgrade and portmaster?
> >
> >I haven't used portupgrade in some time, but what about portmaster?
> >
> >What is one officially supposed to use to build and upgrade packages from
> >source?
> >
> >Synth, poudriere, any others?
> >
> >Tom
> Years ago, I was a strong supporter of "portmanager". It just worked when
> others failed. They when its support wained, I started using "portupgrade". I
> tried "portmaster", but it just failed way to often for my tastes.
> However, after updating to FreeBSD-11, I have used "synth" exclusively. It is
> fast, through and hasn't failed me yet. It took me a while to understand all
> of its nuances, like how to use a "make.conf" file with it; however, it was
> worth it. I would highly recommend it.

FWIW I loved portmaster, but quickly found that by choosing it, I was
*instantly* at odds with a large majority of the FreeBSD crowd.
Eventually, I experimented with other choices, and finally landed on
ports-mgmt/synth, and never looked back. Like Carmel, I found some aspects 
un-intuitive. But after figuring them out. I was hooked. John Marino did
a wonderful job on this, and is very helpful.

> -- 
> Carmel
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