portmaster, portupgrade, etc

[Chris H]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 15:54:32 -0400 Baho Utot <baho-utot at columbus.rr.com> wrote

> On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> 
> > Here's my take on that.
> > 
> > The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 
> > years ago with their development of a better pkg system.
> > 
> 
> [putolin]
> 
> > Don't let the few old school die hearts who are afraid of any change and 
> > make the most noise influence you. There will always be edge case user 
> > who think their needs out weight what is best for the group.
> 
> So what you are really saying is Go to hell old farts we don't need you 
> here.  We are not going to listen to you as you are too old to know 
> anything.  You are old and stupid.
> 
> It is looking like I will need to move away from FreeBSD if that is 
> really what is being accomplished here.

Honestly. That statement irritated me, as well. Who is Ernie to act
as the FreeBSD spokesman, and for what's best for FreeBSD as a whole. :(

> 
> > 
> > Remember that your updated book will become a bible for many years and 
> > many readers. Don't include items that are now on the edge of being 
> > replaced.
> > 
> > Another candidate is JAILs  IE: the old way of jail definition was in 
> > rc.conf the new way being jail.conf. The jail.conf method was 
> > introduction was at RELEASE 9.0 and here its 11.1 and still the old 
> > school users fight to retain both ways. Hoping that with 12.0, support 
> > for jail definition in rc.conf will be totally removed.
> > 
> > One last though. The problem with the Freebsd handbook is that it reads 
> > like a list of reminder notes. The reader is expected to already have a 
> > well defined understanding of the subject being read about. The past 2 
> > years a great amount of effort has gone into bring the handbook up to 
> > date with the current status of the operating system. But it is a very 
> > far cry from a teaching aid.
> > 
> > Please take the time to rework the original "Absolute FreeBSD" content 
> > into something that is usable as a teaching book. You must assume that 
> > the only thing the reader knows about Freebsd is how to spell the word 
> > Freebsd and build the content from there.
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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