portmaster, portupgrade, etc
gurenchan at gmail.com
Thu Oct 5 06:24:03 UTC 2017
Interesting thread, I've learned more about FreeBSD build here than almost
Thanks OP for the email.
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017, 09:14 Adam Weinberger <adamw at adamw.org> wrote:
> > On 4 Oct, 2017, at 10:16, Michael W. Lucas <mwlucas at michaelwlucas.com>
> > Hi,
> > I'm doing tech edits on the new edition of "Absolute FreeBSD," and
> > stumbled into what's apparently a delicate topic.
> > Some of my reviewers are happy I included portmaster in the book.
> > Some reviewers beg me not to include it.
> > Unfortunately, people will be reading af3e and considering it
> > definitive for the next several years. So I have to get a feel for
> > where things are going. :-/
> > I've read a couple threads on portmaster's current problems/growing
> > pains and its looming difficulty with forthcoming flavors.
> > I've been a happy portmaster user for many years now. All things being
> > equal, if its future is still being debated I'm inclined to keep it in
> > the book.
> > Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do simple
> > poudriere installs, but once you start covering it properly the docs
> > quickly expand. My notes alone are longer than my af3e chapter
> > limits. (I'll probably publish "FreeBSD Packaging Misery^WMastery" in
> > 2018).
> > Truly, I'm not looking to start a flame war here. I only want a bit of
> > guidance on The Future...
> > ==ml
> Hi Michael,
> Poudriere is indeed intended to be the canonical port building and
> management tool. It is what essentially the entire ports committer team
> uses, it's what the clusters build with, and it is where support for new
> features land first.
> Portmaster is a tried-and-tested tool for automating port builds.
> Poudriere wants to be everything to everybody, but portmaster is as simple
> to use as possible. The current issue is that portmaster is no longer
> actively developed. Major new features are about to land in the ports tree,
> and portmaster will either not support them, or will break entirely.
> The official message is that everybody for whom Poudriere's workflow works
> should migrate to Poudriere to avoid the impending breakage.
> Portmaster is still very much a part of the current landscape, and if
> somebody steps in to fix it (which I have every expectation will happen
> eventually), it will continue being a usable alternative.
> # Adam
> Adam Weinberger
> adamw at adamw.org
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