[RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

Martin Waschbüsch martin at waschbuesch.de
Sat Jun 24 05:38:52 UTC 2017

> Am 23.06.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Michelle Sullivan <michelle at sorbs.net>:
> Matt Smith wrote:
>> I use FreeBSD *precisely* because it mostly keeps up with the latest stable versions of things. I have postfix 3.2, pgsql 9.6, nginx 1.13, libressl 2.5 etc. It's usually impossible to do this with linux unless you install things directly from source.
> And me I came to FreeBSD because it was security conscious but not latest and greatest or nothing... well not strictly true, P Vixie forced me into trying it.. but I changed from Linux to FreeBSD across my entire product because of stability... which doesn't exist in the same way now (and hasn't since 2013ish)..

FWIW, personally, I never perceived statements about FreeBSD's stability to extend beyond the scope of the (complete) OS itself.
I always regarded ports very much as a convenience. pkg even more so.

>> I upgrade my ports/packages via poudriere every single day which mostly just takes 2 minutes of my time as usually that results in maybe one or two packages being updated at a time. I see this as a positive thing rather than doing one massive huge upgrade every 3 months.
> Currently have 87 servers located across 7 continents, all in production processing incoming spam at the millions per day, and serving DNS requests at a rate of over 70,000 queries per second (averaged over a week)... you can't just f**k with that.  Patches have to be evaluated, tested, built and regression tested....

My personal conclusion is that if I need to ensure that issues (especially security fixes) are dealt with in a timely manner then I have to do the patching, testing, evaluating, etc. myself.
After all, even if all that was thoroughly done by upstream, port maintainer, etc., who’s to say my specific setup and config won’t bring issues to light their testing didn’t?

Just my two cents.

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