Status of synth following expulsion of John Marino?

Shane Ambler FreeBSD at ShaneWare.Biz
Thu Feb 16 01:32:53 UTC 2017

On 16/02/2017 05:28, Adam Weinberger wrote:
>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 11:47, abi <abi at> wrote:

>> On 15.02.2017 18:00, Adam Weinberger wrote:
>>>> On 15 Feb, 2017, at 2:26, Thomas Mueller <mueller6722 at>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Expulsion of John Marino was a shocker to me, caught me by
>>>> surprise.
>>>> Now my question is what is the status of synth?
>>>> Should I switch from portmaster to synth?
>>>> If synth is deprecated or dropped, after I switch from
>>>> portmaster to synth, then I have to switch back, and this would
>>>> be a monster mess of extra work.
>>>> Not to be inflammatory here, just want to know where I/we stand
>>>> and don't want to go too far off course updating my ports.
>>> I don't recommend portmaster for anybody. It's unmaintained, it
>>> already causes headaches on upgrades, and even though it works
>>> now, it is unlikely to keep working as the ports tree evolves.
>> This is FUD. Yes, portmaster can be less maintained, but it works
>> without observable issues, at least I don't see any problems with
>> it on my systems. synth and poudriere lacks the ability to set and
>> maintain port options recursively, eliminating any practical (from
>> user perspective, not developer) use of such software stand alone.
> Sure it does.
> poudriere options -j jailname editors/vim
> Sets options recursively.
> Not seeing any problems with it right now isn't the point of my
> message. The point is that portmaster WILL break when new features
> (currently in progress) are added to the ports build system, and
> being unmaintained, there's no guarantees that it will ever unbreak.

I used to do that sort thing in tinderbox, with poudriere and the new
options framework I prefer to set my options in make.conf.

For every build -

editors_vim_SET= CSCOPE X11 GTK3 PYTHON

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