Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

[Baho Utot]

On 12/3/2017 5:04 PM, Carmel NY wrote:
> On Sunday, December 3, 2017 3:46 PM, Chris H stated:
>> On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 +0000 "FreeBSD Ports ML" <freebsd-> ports at freebsd.org> said
>>> On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated:
>>>> On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +0000, Ben Woods wrote:
>>>>> Hi Carmel,
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that poudriere is the only package building
>>>>> system that is officially supported by the portmgr, apart from raw
>> make.
>>>>> There are many other nice ports building tools contributed by the
>>>>> community, which each have their niche market, but the maintenance
>>>>> of those tools is a community responsibility also.
>>>>>
>>>>> The announcement of impending flavors and breakage of package
>>>>> building infrastructure that doesn’t support it was some time ago
>>>>> (I believe at least 6 months), with a number of reminders since
>>>>> then. If a community
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, 6 months but IMO ports maintainers have still 2 or three months.
>>>> They "pushed" flavors out to early. I do not why.
>>> Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning
>>> how to use an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a
>>> relatively small home network.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that  someone can get "synth" back up and working
>>> correctly. If not it might be time for me to look at another OS for my
>>> network.
>>>
>>> Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager",
>>> "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has
>> done
>>> a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent. Which
>>> brings me to what happens if I do embrace "poudriere". How long before
>>> that becomes history also?
>> port-mgmt/poudriere gets the attention, and maintenance that it does,
>> because it was created, and is maintained by someone with a commit bit
>> (bdrewery).
>> port-mgmt/synth was also created, and maintained by someone with a
>> commit bit (jmarino).
>> However, John's commit bit was taken away. While I'll not comment as to
>> why, nor elaborate on my personal stand/feelings regarding that action. I can
>> say that he has superseded synth with an application called Ravenports[1].
>> I also attempted to take on ports-mgmt/portmaster early on in my
>> endeavors as a ports maintainer. However, that experience also didn't go
>> well, and I'll not bog this thread down with the details. My main intent for my
>> reply, is simply to indicate as to why history has been the way it has regarding
>> the other ports management utilities, and to indicate there is another
>> possible solution, that was not previously mentioned. That I thought you
>> (and others?) might be interested in. :)
> I just checked out < https://github.com/jrmarino/Ravenports/wiki/quickstart-freebsd>
> and < http://ravenports.ironwolf.systems/> and I have to admit that I am interested.
> I am wondering if it will ever get accepted into the ports system.
>

No way....They hate John around here.