Royce Williams royce at
Mon Jan 12 16:56:07 UTC 2015

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Chris H <bsd-lists at> wrote:

> As to the "sysadmin gap" a look to
> the ports tree seems to indicate quite a volume of "sysadmin"
> related ports. Are some missing?

To the contrary -- there are too many.

A good project would be to survey which ones people actually use, and
why -- and then bring their best features into base.

This would be difficult to do as a independent skunkworks project, and
would be better suited as a high-level, Foundation-sponsored one.

(For example, in the Debian ecosystem, for most people, there is no
reason to use something other than apt-get, because it does what it
should and does it well. Every time I upgrade a port, I have to study
/usr/ports/UPDATING, read multiple mailing lists, and hold my breath.
I cannot remember the last time I worried about running apt-get.
Arguments about flexibility and diversity ecosystem don't hold up well
when the basics fail on a regular basis.)


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