FreeBSD Port: x11-servers/xorg-server

William A. Mahaffey III wam at hiwaay.net
Wed Sep 24 04:23:54 UTC 2014 

On 09/23/14 22:46, Patrick Powell wrote:
> On 09/22/14 23:50, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:19 PM, William A. Mahaffey III 
>> <wam at hiwaay.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/22/14 16:38, Patrick Powell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/21/14 16:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 09/21/14 18:12, Robert_Burmeister wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> William A. Mahaffey III wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/21/14 11:41, Robert_Burmeister wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13.09.2014 22:10, Robert Burmeister wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD 10.1 i386
>>>>>>>>>>>> xorg-server 1.12.4_9,1 and 1.12.4_1,1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Still don't have mouse support after upgrade from 1.12.4_8,1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [  1786.822] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does 
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> exist,
>>>>>>>>>> 0)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you installed x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [  1786.825] (EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not
>>>>>>>>>> exist,
>>>>>>>>>> 0)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard?
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Installing x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and
>>>>>>>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
>>>>>>>> fixed the problem, however, I don't understand why upgrading
>>>>>>>> from xorg-server 1.12.4_8,1 to xorg-server 1.12.4_9,1
>>>>>>>> would require new drivers, or lose the ones it had.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would think these drivers would/should be a dependency for
>>>>>>>> xorg-server
>>>>>>>> in the Ports system...
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have had that same problem verbatim the last 2 x-server 
>>>>>>> upgrades I
>>>>>>> did, & that was the fix, (re?)install the kbd & mouse drivers. I
>>>>>>> (pkg-)upgraded this A.M., no such issues ....
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even more interesting...
>>>>>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse and x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
>>>>>> have xorg-server as a dependency, and so cannot be a circular
>>>>>> dependency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing that the mouse and keyboard drivers got deleted as
>>>>>> dependents
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> xorg-server during the upgrade, but there are no dependencies in my
>>>>>> desktop
>>>>>> build
>>>>>> process that require that they be put back, even through a complete
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> recompile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking 'x11-drivers/xorg-drivers' and 'x11/xorg-minimal' 
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> bumped
>>>>>> when xorg-server is upgraded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (When my current recompile is done, I will check that my 
>>>>>> xorg-drivers
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> get removed as well.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using pkg, no ports, no recompiling .... FBSD 9.3, BTW ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Just a thought - check to make sure that the 
>>>>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
>>>> port on the PKGng server you are using  was actually rebuilt for 
>>>> the new
>>>> version of  xorg-server. I had this problem a couple of weeks ago 
>>>> and the X
>>>> log file hinted that the keyboard driver was not compatible with the
>>>> version of xorg-server.  At the time I thought that this was due to 
>>>> a lag
>>>> in the PKGng server building the new drivers so I compiled and 
>>>> installed
>>>> the x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard.  The problem went away.
>>>>
>>>> This appears to be the same sort of issue. Perhaps the driver(s) 
>>>> are not
>>>> getting rebuilt for the new version of xorg-server?  Or perhaps 
>>>> this is
>>>> related to packages on the 'with_new_xorg' PKGng server versus 
>>>> packages on
>>>> the standard PKGng server?
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>>>>
>>> Would that (drivers not getting rebuilt right) be a pkg problem or 
>>> an X11
>>> problem (or something else) ? Just checking ....
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>          William A. Mahaffey III
>>
>> It's a ports issue. The ports system (which is used by pkg) depends on
>> incrementing version numbers to tell when a port has been updated and 
>> needs
>> to be rebuilt or when a port needs updating because a dependency has 
>> been
>> updated in a way that affects the port.  The former is typically the 
>> result
>> of a change to a port that changes hte version number. The later is a 
>> bump
>> of the PORT_REVISION to indicate to the ports system that some change 
>> that
>> did not come from a change upstream, but local to FreeBSD requires a 
>> port
>> rebuild.
>>
>> In this case, it does not work. The actual version number has not 
>> changed
>> as the upstream version has not changed. PORT_REVISION would result 
>> in the
>> ports being rebuilt, but that does not play with the definition of
>> WITH_NEW_XORG. I somehow needs to be bumped when any system sets
>> WITH_NEW_XORG and I don't see any way in hte current structure to do 
>> this.
>> It is the result of having two parallel ports trees.
>>
>> One possible fix is to have code in the Makefile to check WITH_NEW_XORG
>> and, if it is defined, use a different PORT_REVISION. If the old Xorg
>> driver gets a bump of PORT_REVESION, the new one would, as well, but I
>> don't see any reason this could not be done as both numbers are in 
>> the same
>> Makefile and should be only a few lines apart. something like:
>> . if defined(WITH_NEW_XORG)
>> PORT_REVISION=2
>> . else
>> PORT_REVISION=1
>> . endif
>>
>> This may break the index, so I'm not sure it would work as simply as 
>> this,
>> but I bet it could be made to work,
>> -- 
>> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
>> E-mail: rkoberman at gmail.com
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> I can't check this out right now,  BUT are the keyboard/mouse drivers 
> on the WITH_NEW_XORG
> repo server built correctly?   If that is the case then you can force 
> PKG to fetch them from that REPO
> and then you can (using some magic I don't understand, setting 
> something in the comment field) force
> PKG to always fetch from this repo.

I can't vouch for how they're built, but here's where they came from:

[root at kabini1, /etc, 11:25:16pm] 324 % pkg query -g '%n: %R' 'xf86*'
xf86-input-keyboard: FreeBSD_new_xorg
xf86-input-mouse: FreeBSD_new_xorg
xf86-video-ati: FreeBSD_new_xorg
xf86-video-intel: FreeBSD_new_xorg
xf86-video-mach64: FreeBSD
xf86-video-nv: FreeBSD
xf86-video-openchrome: FreeBSD
xf86-video-r128: FreeBSD
xf86-video-vesa: FreeBSD_new_xorg
xf86dga: FreeBSD
xf86dgaproto: FreeBSD
xf86driproto: unknown-repository
xf86miscproto: FreeBSD
xf86vidmodeproto: FreeBSD
[root at kabini1, /etc, 11:25:19pm] 325 %

>
> I have a plan B on this,  which is to have a 'repo search order' 
> capability added to PKG.
> IF you search the WITH_NEW_XORG repo first,  THEN search the standard 
> repo
> AND if you have two packages with the same version, etc, then you get 
> it from the first
> repository you searched.

Someone posted that very suggestion a week or so ago, generated several 
replies, & it was rejected (IIRC) as a bad idea for some reason .... I 
like it myself, but what do I know ????

>
> If the packages on the WITH_NEW_XORG server have the same version/etc 
> as the packages on the
> standardard server BUT they have been built with NEW_XORG then this 
> should work.
>
> I think.  Perhaps.  Maybe. This idea may be bogus.
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