[FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Time to bid farewell to the old pkg_ tools

Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
Thu Feb 6 12:28:31 UTC 2014

Michel Talon wrote:
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Junk mail format, not impressed. Use Ascii

> >ports/ is not just for package addicts.  I never install packages,
> >but only build & install from ports/.  sqlite junk obstructs
> >/var/db/pkg being accessed by find & grep to debug breaking ports =
> builds.
> As someone who has advocated the use of sqlite to replace the old =
> "database in the filesystem"
> several years before it has been implemented by the new package system, =
> i can only conclude, like
> Matthew that you are being absurd.

Personal inuendo does not impress.

> The old package system was total =
> crap,

local.sqlite is also crap, breaks decades of accessibility by find & grep
& other text pipe / search tools.

> incredibly slow and
> using system resources in absurd ways. Sqlite obstructs nothing,

False. local.sqlite obstructs inspection by find & grep & text search tools.

> you =
> have to spend a couple of minutes
> learning the basic SQL queries, which is no more difficult that learning =
> obtuse find and grep options.

Package addicts were so myopic they ignored some people won't even
use packages, just /usr/ports & make.  local.sqlite was immaturely
shoved in without documenting it, no "man 5 local.sqlite" no hook
there for the "couple of minutes learning" you assert, (no hook to believe
the "couple" you assert).

> Moreover i have hard time believing one needs to dissect the package =
> system (beyond reading the=20
> output of pkg info) to debug a port build. One surely needs some =

ports/ is not just a plaything for package script addicts.
Some use ports/ to make & debug exclusively from sources.

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Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com
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