FreeBSD Port: net-mgmt/argus-monitor

[Carter Bullard]

Hey Kevin,
1988, not 1998.  Oh there is no question that the tcp for me guy has been
undermining the original Georgia Tech / CMU argus, since he started.  Yes
I was aware of the Lawrence Livermore group, because of the work I had
done while at Georgia Tech, but that project was not a network security
tool.  Our use of the name argus, started in 1986 at Georgia Tech, and was
used on the NSFnet backbone, which I managed as a part of Suranet,
starting in 1987.  It was reference by NIST between 1994-2002, as the only
network auditing (Red Book style) tool, those pages are long gone, but
was definitely there.  The first reference to argus at NANOG was my argus,
when I was in their security group, and the first presentation at the IETF
RMON group in 1993, on network flow monitoring was this argus.

All use of argus as a network security flow monitor in the US DoD,
DARPA, DISA, IC, DHS and State Dept, are my argus, as much as
I can tell, as my argus is in the only one currently in the FOSS
(federal open source system), and on sourceforge.mil.

And yes the Chinese group that presented their BGP paper this year,
asked us if we would change our name, since they had been using the
name for 6 months, and thought it hard to change their DNS entry.
Had no Idea that we have been using the name for almost
20 years.  It will take me a while to get that addressed as well.

It is very hard to hold onto your image as a project, when there is so
much confusion, and blatant piracy.  I know that is a strong word, but
when you've got a guy changing your Wikipedia entries, sectools.org
entries to put his home page on your project, it's just a major pain.

It would be nice if the community could be more supportive.

Carter

Carter Bullard
CEO/President
QoSient, LLC
150 E 57th Street Suite 12D
New York, New York  10022

+1 212 588-9133 Phone
+1 212 588-9134 Fax



On Mar 21, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Carter Bullard <carter at qosient.com> wrote:
>> Gentle people,
>> Please be aware that this software has " stolen " its name from Carnegie Mellon University's and QoSient, LLC's open source network monitor, Argus. http://qosient.com/argus. The original argus, first developed in 1988 and released as open source in1993, is an advanced network flow monitor, discussed in the IETF, and the US NIST, used by 10,000's of sites for network performance and security monitoring, is referenced in 100's of academic journals.  It is used by many Gov'ts, Institutions and Corporations, and is in the top 100 security tools used in the internet (sectools.org).
>> 
>> Thank you for your consideration,
>> 
>> Carter
>> 
>> Carter Bullard
>> CEO/President
>> QoSient, LLC
>> 150 E 57th Street Suite 12D
>> New York, New York  10022
>> 
>> +1 212 588-9133 Phone
>> +1 212 588-9134 Fax
> 
> While the CMU Argus goes back to 1998, the one in the ports tree as
> "argus-monitor" is somewhat older, having originated in 1996. It is
> also an open source tool and, as such, the name "Argus" is a fairly
> obvious one. I worked with the Argus Security Monitor, a physical
> security management software package at Lawrence Livermore National
> Laboratory back in the 1980s, so the use of the Argus name for
> security software pre-dates both of these projects. The LLNL Argus was
> used by a number of government facilities and may well still be in
> use.
> 
> So, while the CMU developed Argus may be very popular, it is quite
> unlikely that the name was "stolen" by either project and, since the
> other Argus is older, it seems the CMU Argus could be the only one to
> steal the name. I might also mention that an Argus prefix highjack
> monitor also exists. It was developed in China.
> 
> I first heard of the one FreeBSD lists as "argus-monitor" back at a
> North American Network Operators meeting a great many years ago and it
> is also quite popular in the networking community. I suspect that both
> may be counted in the survey du to the unfortunate name collision.
> 
> N.B. I have no involvement with either Argus and both are in the
> FreeBSD ports. The CMU developed one is net-mgmt/argus3. I am also not
> involved with the FreeBSD ports other than as a user and volunteer.
> -- 
> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> E-mail: rkoberman at gmail.com
> 

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