If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdlist at alogt.com
Thu Dec 19 05:54:49 UTC 2013


On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:46:58 +0100
David Demelier <demelier.david at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/12/17 John Marino <freebsd.contact at marino.st>:
> > Over the months I've seen several ports users copy a failure log and
> > mail it to ports@, usually without even saying "hello".  I've tried
> > to discourage that behavior but other members of this mail list
> > encourage this method of bypassing writing PRs.  One user even
> > proudly boasted that sending email to ports@ is faster than writing
> > a PR so of course he was going to do that instead.
> >
> > If this kind of post is acceptable to the rest of the people here,
> > and I'm alone in not only finding it very rude, but also making the
> > volume of ports@ too high, then please tell me that the problem is
> > with me.
> >
> > If nothing is going to change, I am going to unsubscribe from ports@
> > list.  The gcc developers on gcc at gcc.gnu.org always tell a poster
> > when a post in appropriate for that list and as a result and as a
> > result the posters usually only make a mistake once.  I'd like to
> > see something closer to that, but if the list isn't going to be
> > policed then it's too noisy for me.
> >
> > John
> I agree on some points. However, sometimes users asks why it does not
> compile because it can come from their installations. It's quite true,
> a port "should" compile if not it should be marked as BROKEN. I
> personally prefer to ask to the list when it does not compiles because
> it can comes from me.
> For instance I asked for virtualbox because I didn't see any other
> complaint nor PRs and since it compiles from my system and not
> poudriere I thought I did something wrong. And for that purpose I
> think that we should not spam the GNATS where problems can appear at
> the user side first.
you got the point. We have to assume that a port which is not marked
broken has to work. So, the fault is on our side. Why should we spam
GNATS with our problem?

GNATS for confirmed problems, the list for anything else.

> But for me, I often starts my mails by Hello :-).

A Hi should also do the job.


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