Let's talk about subversion/svn
ohauer at gmx.de
Mon Nov 19 08:00:31 UTC 2012
On 2012-11-19 08:16, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> Given the incessant focus on everything using Subversion now (please do
> not get me started, it will be like arguing with a brick wall), I'd like
> to know what the plan is for minimising the number of dependencies.
> The present subversion **package** on the official FTP servers is for
> root at icarus:~ # ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/
> ftp> dir subversion*.tbz
> 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||10279|).
> 150 Here comes the directory listing.
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 32 Oct 14 14:53 subversion-java.tbz -> ../All/subversion-java-1.7.6.tbz
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 27 Oct 13 13:24 subversion.tbz -> ../All/subversion-1.7.6.tbz
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 28 Oct 14 01:54 subversion16.tbz -> ../All/subversion-1.6.18.tbz
> 226 Directory send OK.
> And this is partially what it pulls down dependency-wise:
> root at icarus:~ # pkg_add -r -n subversion
> Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/subversion.tbz... Done.
> Package dependency sqlite3-184.108.40.206 for ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/subversion.tbz not found!
> Package dependency gdbm-1.9.1 for ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/subversion.tbz not found!
> Package dependency db42-4.2.52_5 for ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/subversion.tbz not found!
> Package dependency neon29-0.29.6_4 for ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/subversion.tbz not found!
> I say partially because due to use of -n, some of those packages weren't
> downloaded, thus the recursive dependency nature is lost (I consider
> this mostly a bug with -n when used with a remote package, but it could
> also be deemed a feature).
> However, GDBM and Oracle/Sleepycat DB aren't (by default) enabled
> in 1.7.7 which is what's in ports currently:
> root at icarus:/usr/ports/devel/subversion # make run-depends-list
> So GDBM and Oracle/Sleepycat DB are now disabled by default (good!),
> but now we have the following (and I will describe each of them for
> readers so they know what they're for):
> - SQLite -- which I believe is used for data storage for commits/etc.
> and tends to work well for that, so I'm okay with it.
> - gettext -- needed for NLS, which I've learned to accept although I'd
> rather everything today just use UTF-8 universally (idealistic me).
> However, there are many people who are heavy WITHOUT_NLS advocates,
> and I used to be one, so they should be honoured (IMO).
> - APR -- have yet to figure this out. All I can think of is "svn is
> an Apache project and we like injecting all our crap into everything,
> so enjoy!".
> - expat2 -- XML parsing library, which I also have yet to figure out
> the need for. What VCS uses XML and why? Is this really *needed*?
> - neon -- OPTIONS description labels this as "WebDAV/DAV support",
> but in reality what this provides that's most important is HTTPS/SSL
> support. I found this out the hard way when building svn for a
> customer 4-5 months ago. NEON_DESC should really become this:
> NEON_DESC=WebDAV/Delta-V access module + HTTPS/SSL support
> I want people reading this to remember olden days, because it seems
> we've taken a step backwards when it comes to applying minimalistic
> approaches and KISS principle. I want people to remember the days of
> this command:
> pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui
For most ports you can find the answer of dependency directly in the source.
$> cd devel/subversion
$> make extract
$> less work/subversion-1.7.7/INSTALL
Subversion also depends on the following third-party libraries:
* SQLite (REQUIRED for client and server)
* libz (REQUIRED for client and server)
* libapr and libapr-util (REQUIRED for client and server)
* libserf or libneon (OPTIONAL for client)
Hope this helps for all your other dependency related questions.
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