Port system "problems"

[Baptiste Daroussin]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:34:00AM +0200, Marcus von Appen wrote:
> Matthew Seaman <m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk>:
> 
> > On 26/06/2012 08:26, Marcus von Appen wrote:
> >>>> 1. Ports are not modular
> >
> >>> What do you mean by modular? if you are speaking about subpackages it
> >>> is coming,
> >>> but it takes time
> >
> >> I hope, we are not talking about some Debian-like approach here (foo-bin,
> >> foo-dev, foo-doc, ....).
> >
> > Actually, yes -- that's pretty much exactly what we're talking about
> > here.  Why do you feel subpackages would be a bad thing?
> 
> Because it makes installing ports more complex, causes maintainers to rip
> upstream installation routines apart, and burdens users with additional tasks
> to perform for what particular benefit (except saving some disk space)?
> 
> If I want to do some development the Debian way, I would need to do the
> following:
> 
> - install foo-bin (if it ships with binaries)
> - install foo-lib (libraries, etc.)
> - install foo-dev (headers, etc.)
> - install foo-doc (API docs)
> 
> With the ports I am currently doing:
> 
> - install foo
> 

yes but you do not allow to install 2 packages one depending on mysql51 and one
depending on mysql55, there will be conflicts on dependency just because of
developpement files, the runtime can be made not to conflict.

I trust maintainers to no abuse package splitting and do it when it make sense.

In the case you give I would probably split the package that way:
foo (everything needed in runtime: bin + libraries)
foo-dev (everything needed for developper: headers, static libraries, pkg-config
stuff, libtool stuff, API docs)
foo-docs (all user documentation about the runtime)

of course there will be no rule on how to split packages, just common sense. 

regards,
Bapt
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