pkgng default schedule... registering a few reasons for rethinking the final implementation...

Jeremy Messenger mezz.freebsd at
Thu Aug 23 17:10:15 UTC 2012

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Kris Moore <kris at> wrote:
> On 08/23/2012 12:26, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote:
>> I am following with dread the planned implementation of the deprecation of /var/db/pkg as a package registry... I use each /var/db/pkg directory as a database into the port installation/status, using sed/grep/portmaster/portmanager/.sh scripts/find/pipes etc... to fix stuff.  For instance, an upgrade py26 > py27.
>> cd /var/db/pkg
>> ls -lac | grep py26
>> ls -lac | grep python
>> as the more simple example.
>> ....
>> With due respect to its developers and the persons who agree that
>> the package tools could be upgraded, the mandatory
>> usage of a front-end database to a file directory one
>> is here viewd as mutt-only-mbox, registry-and-bsod rather
>> than /etc/local/rc files, deprecation of sed/grep/find/locate/.sh/portmaster/portmanager as tools to fixup/upgrade the ports that are registered;
>> ...
>> I see concurrently too few tests on lower-end p2, p3 as to whether
>> pkg can run with lesser memory machines (routers...) (pfsense)
>> ...
>> I suspect stalling of successful frontends to bsd (pc-bsd, ghostbsd,
>> pfsense..) due to less-reliability, more-possibility of bugs..
> This is of some concern to me as well. A number of our utilities /
> scripts rely on checking /var/db/pkg as a means to test if a particular
> package is installed. This is often much faster than running the pkg_*
> commands, especially when we may be checking thousands of packages in a
> single run. It will be some work to adjust our utilities to using the
> various "pkg" commands now, but it can be done. What worries me is
> performance. If this is significantly slower, it may cause some issues
> on our end.

Guys, please test it before you say anything. Otherwise it's going to
be moved forward without you.

> --
> Kris Moore
> PC-BSD Software
> iXsystems

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