pkgng 1.0 release schedule, and HEAD switch to pkgng by default schedule

Doug Barton dougb at
Tue Aug 21 18:59:53 UTC 2012

On 8/21/2012 11:47 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Doug Barton <dougb at> wrote:
>> On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fits the
>>> schedule.
>> Um, no?
> ...
>> What _would_ be useful is what should have been done many years ago when
>> it was first suggested: Move the pkg_* tools to ports.
> It already exists -- it's just out of date / crufty:

Right ... I was using "move" as shorthand for several different ideas,
including but not limited to the latest version of the code itself,
robust support for the code going forward, the primary supported way of
using pkg_*, etc. All of these ideas have been discussed in the past, so
I was hoping to avoid having to re-discuss them. :)

>> It's too late for 9.1 already, but if you made that change today in
>> HEAD, and after 9.1 (but before 8.4) you MFC it to stable/[89], then you
>> could theoretically make pkg mandatory after 9.1 EOLs.
>> To make my point more clear, the ports tree has to support the last
>> release to ship with pkg_* tools in the base throughout its lifetime. To
>> do anything else would be be a massive POLA violation.
> Agreed.

Great (and I saw Baptiste's response on this as well). Glad to hear that
we're on the same page about something at least. :)


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