ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
Tue Sep 13 19:27:51 UTC 2011


Chris Rees wrote:
> On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey <jhs at berklix.com> wrote:
> > Matthias Andree wrote:
> >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in
> >> >> the first place).
> >> >
> >> > Bullshit!
> >>
> >> I think that suffices.  If the discussion is getting emotional, we
> >> should stop it.
> >
> > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked.
> > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers.
> >
> 
> Julian,
> 
> Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't
> think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them.
> 
> Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break.
> 
> Chris

Revised reply as I subsequently notice Chris Rees lack of attribution
falsely implies I wrote stuff I did not.

>	>> >> the first place).
>	>> >
>	>> > Bullshit!
I did not write that.  That was
	From Erik Trulsson <ertr1013 at student.uu.se> 
	In reply to Matthias Andree
	Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:22:10 +0200
	http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070018.html

Seems Chris's butcher colleague Matthias annoyed Erik too.

Further Chris's unattributed chunk

>	> Bullshit!
>	
>	I think that suffices.  If the discussion is getting emotional, we
>	should stop it.

Was not from or to me, but was:

	From: Matthias Andree <mandree at freebsd.org>
	Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:06:30 +0200
	To: Erik Trulsson <ertr1013 at student.uu.se>
	http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070075.html	

Only Chris's final bit had me as sender or recipient, namely:

>	> I think that suffices.  If the discussion is getting emotional, we
>	> should stop it.
>
>	No. You should stop advocating killing ports, 

which was not to Chris but was:

	From Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com
	Tue Sep 13 08:44:10 UTC 2011
	To Matthias Andree
	http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070164.html

Chris's lack of attribution checking was misleading, but not suprising,
Chris Rees it was who wanted to kick out procmail. Poor judgement.

A few ports butchers should lose commit bits before ports/ will be safe again.

Cheers,
Julian
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