Old ports bugs analyzis

Garrett Cooper yanefbsd at gmail.com
Wed Mar 31 06:20:05 UTC 2010

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Arseny Nasokin <eirnym at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2010, at 04:14, Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Today binary packages are rolled as generic as possible provided the
>> architecture they're built for and are monolithic, meaning that they
>> contain the build, lib, patch, and run dependencies required to build
>> everything, as they're generated after an in-place install in
>> ${PREFIX} .
>> One of many ideas we were kicking around on #bsdports was to produce
>> `fat packages' which would be usable in package installation and ports
>> building scenarios (similar to the headache that exists in many Linux
>> distros with -devel and non-devel packages), but the user could
>> specify whether or not they wanted the -devel pieces or not (if it
>> applied) -- so only one set of packages would need to be distributed.
>> We didn't really kick the idea around too much, but it was still a
>> novelty that should be `nursed' to a proper conclusion as it would
>> allow folks who roll packages and install on embedded systems /
>> install bases, or prefer installing via packages, to have small
>> install bases, and smaller potential binary roll up after the fact.
> I can't see and discuss in IRC due browser and platform(software part)
> limitations in nearest future.
> I don't clearly understand, will be ports system removed? Will there will be
> sourse and binary packages or will it be Gentoo-style "portages", which will
> provide installation from binary or source with options?

Gentoo portage is maintainer hell; we have enough fun with ports not
to get stuck in that mess.

> Almost all packages in my systems has custom settings.

Which is exactly why I advocate using ports for my desktops and
servers. I just have other vested interests outside of my personal
machines where binary packages are better suited than installed a
boatload of packages from source.

Cool thing is though, if people use standard packages, there's a
greater chance of there not being stability issues with the packages
themselves right (or at least all of the issues will be known

Thanks :),

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