make.conf no x option
Randy Bush
randy at psg.com
Sun May 31 12:25:38 UTC 2009
>>>> i think this whole thing is worth a few days to settle in our heads.
>>>> essentially, if we believe that freebsd is used extensively in
>>>> headless server deployments, we should make that easy and smooth.
>>> But even a headless server can run X clients with the display being on
>>> some other (presumably non-headless) machine. That is on of the
>>> beauties of the X Windowing System.
>>
>> [ thanks, but i am overly-familiar with the beauties and the some of the
>> warts of x. ]
>>
>> someone installing a server may or may not want the x client version of
>> a package as opposed to readline or curses. but, imiho, it would be
>> good to make such decisions centralized, somewhat strong, and pretty
>> clear.
>>
>>> The only part that would make no sense to install on a headless
>>> machine is the X server itself
>>
>> and the support for it and the toys it occasionally seems to drag in.
>>
>> i really do not want the x client versions of emacs, cvsup, ...
>> actually, i can not think of any ports i run on headless machines that i
>> want spawning windows on my glass. ymmv, of course.
>>
>> i think that i would like to be able to say headless install and have to
>> ack any port which wants to drag in x.
>
> First of all, try figuring out which ports got you into the X11 mess. On
> my server I got:
>
> % pkg_info -R libX11-1.2.1,1
> Information for libX11-1.2.1,1:
my point was specifically that, if we believe that freebsd is used by a
major server population, that having to know/do this kind of cruft is
ill-advised.
randy
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