complaint

[Chuck Robey]

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Anders Nordby wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Add WITHOUT_CUPS=yes to /etc/make.conf already, Gnome and other things
> can do without it.

Well, I went to the x11/gnome2/Makefile, it has no notes, no comments
referring to any such feature.  If you know about this, or whatever
sub-sub-sub-port it's actually working thru, could you put a line in the
x11/gnome2/Makefile that describes how to use it?

Regardless, you aren't going to seriously argue the correctness of my
argument, are you?  You really need me to compound a list of ports that DO
force you to install extra pieces of a larger port?

Or can you possibly admit that such examples DO exist?  And, IF they
exist, do you think I am wrong in what I wish to have happen (to have such
ports broken into pieces?  Perhaps, codify the rules for formation of a
DONTINSTALLIT type flag, for naming purposes?

>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 03:05:25PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote:
> > I have not complained aobout this for some years now, although it's really
> > and truly been a thorn in my side ... but I thought, well, I am probably
> > OK to complain once per decade.  Here is my bitch:
> >
> > Refers to ports that include the kitchen sink, and DON'T do it as options.
> > The one that caused me to really bitch this time is gnome, and it's the
> > printing option, but it's the same with KDE: they both FORCE you to
> > install CUPS, which I abhor, and have the most horrible time with.  I
> > personally am in love with Andreas' fantastic port print/apsfilter, and I
> > just can't see why it's necessary to force folks to install this port.  In
> > my own opinion, one line in the pkg-descr that infomed about a gnome-print
> > port wouild have been a whole lot better.
> >
> > It's quite the same for audio, or many other apps.  Everyone seems to have
> > this built in need to have their port be the biggest, like they're on
> > piece vs. time pay or something, I dunno.
> >
> > It would not be hard, not be difficult, to fix things, and this would
> > REALLY improve our ports.
> >
> > OK, I don't require folks agree with me, just that they listen, and I have
> > herewith had my once-per-decade rant.  Back to being an occaisonal pita.
> >
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> > Chuck Robey         | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD,
> > chuckr at chuckr.org   | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy.
> >
> > New Year's Resolution:  I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up
> > fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity,
> > Signa Phi Nothing).
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Chuck Robey         | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD,
chuckr at chuckr.org   | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy.

New Year's Resolution:  I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up
fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity,
Signa Phi Nothing).
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