Large port updates

Michael Nottebrock michaelnottebrock at gmx.net
Tue Dec 7 15:22:00 PST 2004


On Tuesday, 7. December 2004 23:32, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 05:52:15PM +0000, mark at markdnet.demon.co.uk wrote:
> >It seems to me that its a product of gnome being so many ports. Why
> >not just have a few, like KDE (although it appears KDE is going the
> >way of gnome - if this results in portupgrade not working there
> >either, its insanity).
>
> * With KDE, you get one big update every release. With GNOME, you
>    can get new features, fixes, and improvements as soon as they become
>    available. It's just a different design model. Each has its merits;
>    each has its faults.
>
> * With KDE, you have one kdelibs port that takes about 80 minutes to
>    build. With GNOME, you have about 20 ports that take about 4 minutes
>    each to build. 6 of one, half dozen of another. That's purely
>    metaphorical, of course: using ccache, I can build all GNOME meta-
>    ports in about 6.5 hours; building the KDE meta-port takes about 9.
>
> * portupgrade(1) works perfectly if you run it regularly. If you
>    introduce inconsistencies, portupgrade will fail no matter how you run
>    it, or even if you build the updates from the command-line.
>
> * If you don't like the deployment structure of GNOME, talk to GNOME,
>    not FreeBSD. You wouldn't complain to your TV manufacturer if you
>    didn't like a movie you rented.

Last but not least: ports/UPDATING is witness to the fact that a simple 
portupgrade -a won't always work for upgrading KDE either, in particular 
between feature releases (second number in version changes). And do expect 
hell to break loose when KDE 4 arrives...

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