Question on packet filter using in and out interfaces

Greg Hennessy Greg.Hennessy at nviz.net
Sat Jul 21 13:58:12 UTC 2012


As I recall there is a diagram out there which detail the packet flow starting with the ingress interface.

It'll explain what gets evaluated where. Bear in mind the effect of the 'quick' keyword. Something I tend to always use. 

Regards

Greg


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tonix (Antonio Nati) [mailto:tonix at interazioni.it]
> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012 11:49 PM
> To: Greg Hennessy
> Cc: freebsd-pf at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Question on packet filter using in and out interfaces
> 
> Il 20/07/2012 02:44, Greg Hennessy ha scritto:
> > For PF I would tend to filter in the ingress interface, tag flows passed by
> policy and put a generic pass rule on the egress interface permitting the
> tagged flow.
> >
> > The only exception would be assignment of specific flows for shaping.
> 
> Please see answer on other thread. If PF evaluates rules all together,
> there would be no security difference on using IN or OUT rules.
> 
> Or does PF not evaluates all rules in configuration file in same phase?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tonino
> 
> >
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-freebsd-pf at freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> >> pf at freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tonix (Antonio Nati)
> >> Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 1:25 AM
> >> To: freebsd-pf at freebsd.org
> >> Subject: Question on packet filter using in and out interfaces
> >>
> >> I have a basic question is on usage of 'in' or 'out' interfaces, on
> >> practical usage.
> >>
> >> I'm having some talks in PFsense mailing list, and I'm saying there is
> >> no security difference  about using rulesets on output interfaces or on
> >> input interfaces, as PF is evaluating all rules in the same phase.
> >>
> >> At the opposite, I'm told all 'in' rules are evaluated first, than there
> >> is a routing phase, then the 'out'  rules are finally evaluated, so it
> >> is more secure to have only filters on 'in' interfaces.
> >>
> >> Which is the real situation? Does really Packet Filter has any security
> >> advantage having only 'in' rules, or there is no difference on using out
> >> interface instead of in interface?
> >>
> >> All start from consideration that using out interfaces would semplify a
> >> lot management of complex environments, with interfaces dedicated to
> >> different customers (one OUT rule on specific interface instead of
> >> several IN rules on all other interfaces).
> >>
> >> Thanks for any clear answer you can give.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Tonino
> >>
> >>
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