Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

Scott Long scottl at
Sun Oct 15 19:28:42 UTC 2006

Danial Thom wrote:
> --- Mark Linimon <linimon at> wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:57:32AM -0700,
>> Danial Thom wrote:
>>> Stating facts is not trolling.
>> true, but ...
>>> The fact that you may not want to hear it is
>> your own problem [...]
>>> You can't keep promoting this junk they're
>> putting out. You can't just
>>> keep kicking the Matt Dillons out of the camp
>> because they think that
>>> your design is a piece of crap. At some point
>> you have to come to terms
>>> with the fact that your kernel design stinks
>> [...]
>> ... *is*.
>> I think there are valid points to be made about
>> 4.X vs 5.X vs 6.X (which
>> is why, for the sake of being informative, I
>> wrote an article about it).
>> Performance was also discussed extensively at
>> BSDCan, and a lot of work was
>> done on improvements and ideas were discussed
>> for the next steps to make
>> (e.g.: actual work, not just talk).  This work
>> is continuing.
>> But as long as you keep the above tone, I and
>> everyone else who is actually
>> doing the work to advance the project will just
>> ignore you; because, frankly,
>> there's too much work to do and in any case,
>> life is just too short.  (I
>> intend to do just that from now on, so I will
>> not be adding any more to this
>> thread.  You may have the "last word", if that
>> kind of thing is important to
>> you.)
>> Finally, if you think Matt's design and/or
>> ability to accept criticism is
>> better than ours, then DragonFly is clearly a
>> better choice for you.
> Dragonfly will be a better choice for everyone in
> a year or so, but as of now there are no choices.
> The *tone* is caused by the entire user base
> being lied to over and over, "performance is
> addressed in the next release", yada, yada, yada.
> Those of us in the know are tired of it. You're
> wasting a lot of our time testing this crap over
> and over. 
> So stop lying. Stop allowing Kris Kennaway to BS
> everyone on the questions list over and over and
> calling anyone who speaks the truth a troll. Fess
> up to  your debacle publically because you're
> affecting people's businesses with your lying,
> trying to cover your asses and refusing to admit
> that you are just rambling cluelessly about.
> There isn't one person on that team that knows
> how to fix what's wrong, and you're using
> thousand of people trying to run businesses as
> guinea pigs.
> Thats why some of us have a *tone*
> DT

Congrats, you are the second entry in my permanent kill file.


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