Performance 4.x vs. 6.x (was: e: [fbsd] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 5.3, 5.4, 6.0 EoLs coming soon)

Danial Thom danial_thom at
Sun Oct 15 17:47:56 UTC 2006

--- Mark Linimon <linimon at> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:57:32AM -0700,
> Danial Thom wrote:
> > Stating facts is not trolling.
> true, but ...
> > The fact that you may not want to hear it is
> your own problem [...]
> > You can't keep promoting this junk they're
> putting out. You can't just
> > keep kicking the Matt Dillons out of the camp
> because they think that
> > your design is a piece of crap. At some point
> you have to come to terms
> > with the fact that your kernel design stinks
> [...]
> ... *is*.
> I think there are valid points to be made about
> 4.X vs 5.X vs 6.X (which
> is why, for the sake of being informative, I
> wrote an article about it).
> Performance was also discussed extensively at
> BSDCan, and a lot of work was
> done on improvements and ideas were discussed
> for the next steps to make
> (e.g.: actual work, not just talk).  This work
> is continuing.
> But as long as you keep the above tone, I and
> everyone else who is actually
> doing the work to advance the project will just
> ignore you; because, frankly,
> there's too much work to do and in any case,
> life is just too short.  (I
> intend to do just that from now on, so I will
> not be adding any more to this
> thread.  You may have the "last word", if that
> kind of thing is important to
> you.)
> Finally, if you think Matt's design and/or
> ability to accept criticism is
> better than ours, then DragonFly is clearly a
> better choice for you.

Dragonfly will be a better choice for everyone in
a year or so, but as of now there are no choices.

The *tone* is caused by the entire user base
being lied to over and over, "performance is
addressed in the next release", yada, yada, yada.
Those of us in the know are tired of it. You're
wasting a lot of our time testing this crap over
and over. 

So stop lying. Stop allowing Kris Kennaway to BS
everyone on the questions list over and over and
calling anyone who speaks the truth a troll. Fess
up to  your debacle publically because you're
affecting people's businesses with your lying,
trying to cover your asses and refusing to admit
that you are just rambling cluelessly about.
There isn't one person on that team that knows
how to fix what's wrong, and you're using
thousand of people trying to run businesses as
guinea pigs.

Thats why some of us have a *tone*


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