BBR patches?

vm finance vm.finance2 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 19 16:58:45 UTC 2019


Hi Randall,

I applied the patch available at:
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582?id=62213
NOTE: This raw patch seems to be exactly the same as the one I downloaded
on Sep10...hope I'm not missing anything here...

I clicked on "download raw diff" and saved it to bbr_patch.diff file on my
local machine
Step 1: Apply PATCH:
cd /usr/src/sys
patch < bbr_patch.diff
Patch was applied successfully - no errors seen there.

Step 2: Update kernel config:
cp /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MYKERNEL
Added three options to MYKERNEL (per ur email - I have also attached the
compile MYKERNEL file)
cd /usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/MYKERNEL
make cleandepend
=>This fails due to missing "bbr" under /usr/src/sys/modules/tcp/
[pls find the attached log file for exact error]

make depend
=> This also fails due to missing "/usr/src/sys/modules/tcp/bbr"

STEP 3:
cd /usr/src/
make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
This also fails due to prior errors in Step 2.

Please find MYKERNEL config file + error logs.

Many many thanks for taking time to help me through this!

PS: I did a make buildkernel without any KERNCONF=MYKERNEL, and that
successfully finished.



On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:19 PM Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com> wrote:

> You can look in the config I sent.. but here is what
> I have added to enable BBR and Rack to be built
> *****
> makeoptions     WITH_EXTRA_TCP_STACKS=1
> options         TCPHPTS
> options         RATELIMIT
> ******
>
> So you should
> 1) Apply the current patch in phabricator
> 2) edit your config and add the above three lines
> 3) go to the src dir and type
>      make buildkernel KERNCONF=myconf
>
> That should build and get you a kernel that will include bbr and rack. You
> will
> need to, after it boots up type
>
> kldload tcp_bbr
>
> or
>
> kldload tcp_rack
>
> To get the modules loaded
>
> R
>
>
>
> > On Sep 18, 2019, at 2:31 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Randall, Michael,
> >
> > Build is done successfully. I would appreciate if you could share config
> changes needed for BBR.
> >
> > My svn revision is: 352483
> >
> > =======================================================
> > awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk zlib.ko.full  export_syms | xargs
> -J% objcopy % zlib.ko.full
> > objcopy --only-keep-debug zlib.ko.full zlib.ko.debug
> > objcopy --strip-debug --add-gnu-debuglink=zlib.ko.debug  zlib.ko.full
> zlib.ko
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Wed Sep 18 21:08:31 UTC 2019
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> Kernel(s)  GENERIC built in 1972 seconds, ncpu: 4
> > =======================================================
> >
> > Thank you
> > Vishal.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:34 PM vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm using amd64. I'd get back as soon as base build is complete.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:09 AM Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com> wrote:
> > To get bbr running you will need to change your kernel config.
> >
> > Are you building i386 or amd64?
> >
> > After you have successfully did
> >
> > 1) buildworld
> > 2) buildkernel
> > 3) installkernel
> >
> > (you can look in UPDATING for instructions .. though the file is long :D)
> >
> > successfully let me know.. and then I will give you the tweaks you need
> to add
> > to the kerneconf.
> >
> > It won’t take as long to build because at that point you can add in the
> > NO_CLEAN NO_CLEANDIR options as well since you will have built everything
> > the first time
> >
> > R
> >
> > > On Sep 18, 2019, at 7:06 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > BTW, if you think I should be making any changes in configs, please do
> let me know.
> > > My goal is to build a freebsd image with BBR patches on x86 VM.
> > > Nothing fancy.
> > >
> > > thanks!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:03 AM vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Thanks Randall, Michael,
> > >
> > > I did "svn svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src"
> > > and now doing "make buildworld buildkernel"
> > > [I didn't change anything in configs - just whatever are the defaults]
> > >
> > > I would update as soon as its done.
> > >
> > > Thanks again!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:53 AM Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > One other note.. I notice his kernel conf he sent does not have
> > > the right things to get BBR even to attempt to build.
> > >
> > > I would suggest using that config for the first steps.. then he must
> add
> > > the additional tcp stacks and the hpts in order to get bbr/rack and
> any other
> > > extra stack….
> > >
> > > But I would suggest to build with his current config first and once he
> has
> > > that in place and building
> > >
> > > a) apply the patch
> > > b) add the extra kernel options
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > > On Sep 18, 2019, at 6:50 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thats  great idea Michael.
> > > >
> > > > From the look fo the build log I was sent, his blow-up has nothing
> to do
> > > > with the patches.
> > > >
> > > > He should probably
> > > >
> > > > 1) Check out a fresh version of head.
> > > > 2) Follow the instructions in UPDATING to get a clean build.
> > > >   —  make buildworld
> > > >   — make buildkernel KERNCONF=his-conf
> > > >   — make installkernel KERNCONF=his-conf
> > > >
> > > >    ** do the reboot and merge master **
> > > >
> > > > Then after that he could
> > > >
> > > > 3) Apply the current patch in the review
> > > > 4) do build that
> > > >      — make buildkernel KERNCONF=his_conf  -DNO_CLEAN -DNO_CLEANDIR
> > > >      — make install kernel KERNCONF=his_conf
> > > >
> > > > And he should have it all working :)
> > > >
> > > > I have done multiple builds with the latest head from yesterday both
> with and without
> > > > the extra stacks and hpts.. and I can’t get a build failure.. this
> would verify he can
> > > > at least build head..
> > > >
> > > > R
> > > >
> > > >> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:10 AM, Michael Tuexen <
> michael.tuexen at lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 18. Sep 2019, at 08:19, vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> correcting a typo:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
> > > >>> current revision: 352434
> > > >> I suggest to build/install head first without any patches. After
> that has worked,
> > > >> apply the patches you are interested in. That way it is easy to
> separate generic
> > > >> build issues and issue specific to a patch.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards
> > > >> Michael
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thank you!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:11 PM vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Actually I am on head already as mentioned previously. Pulled it
> using
> > > >>>> yesterday:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /use/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If you could pls let me know the new patch, I can try that.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 18-Sep-2019, at 8:56 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> There have been several patches pre-this one that provide
> > > >>>> the infrastructure to support BBR.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Release 12.0 will *not* have these patches and will *not* compile
> it.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have no intention at this point in doing a MFC of this work..
> so if you
> > > >>>> want
> > > >>>> to run BBR you need to run Head
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> R
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi Randall,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Could you please provide a pointer to the latest patch. I had
> applied the
> > > >>>> one you published Sep-10.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Following is what I have done:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 1. Picked FreeBSD 12.0 RELEASE VM from osboxes.org
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2. Got VM up under VMPlayer on x86 laptop
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 3. Checked out latest codebase from freebsd repo:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src*
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> cd /usr/src;
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make buildworld buildkernel
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> [this is where make fails when patch is applied]
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I could try to build with your latest patch - please send me a
> pointer.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks for your help!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:33 PM Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Looking at your make file log I can’t really tell what you are
> doing.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Its not the BBR or Rack code that is blowing up…
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Are you cross compiling?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have done the old fashioned kernel make
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> i.e.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> cd src/sys/amd64/config
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> config headvm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> cd ../compile/headvm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make cleandepend ; make depend; make -j3
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have done
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> cd src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=headvm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> And even
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> to make sure that the build works without bbr.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I attach my headvm config..
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> What exactly are you building and how? kernel config too please?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> R
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> looking
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I was at 352408.. let me update and try it
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> R
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hmm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Did you get the patch I updated too this am?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have built it both with and without the bbr stack and had no
> issue..
> > > >>>> there was
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> an issue with KTLS before the update though.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I don’t recognize what you have below there though…
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> R
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:47 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Got it - thank you!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error.
> Following is SVN
> > > >>>> info + make error mesg.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> #svnlite revision
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Path: .
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Relative URL: ^/head
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Revision: 352436
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Node Kind: directory
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Schedule: normal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Last Changed Author: jah
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> root at osboxes:/usr/src #
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
> > > >>>> ----------------------------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo
> dev_net.llo
> > > >>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ===> sys (cleandir)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o
> sack_filter.o
> > > >>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h
> opt_tcpdebug.h
> > > >>>> opt_kern_tls.h
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rm: x86: is a directory
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:41 PM vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Got it - thank you!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error.
> Following is SVN
> > > >>>> info + make error mesg.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have also attached the entire build log...snippet is below
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> #svnlite revision
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Path: .
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Relative URL: ^/head
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Revision: 352436
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Node Kind: directory
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Schedule: normal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Last Changed Author: jah
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> root at osboxes:/usr/src #
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
> > > >>>> ----------------------------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo
> dev_net.llo
> > > >>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ===> sys (cleandir)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o
> sack_filter.o
> > > >>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h
> opt_tcpdebug.h
> > > >>>> opt_kern_tls.h
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rm: x86: is a directory
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Stop.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Pacing is provided by tcp_hpts.c. The current linux patches do
> not have
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> to have fq.. they built an alternate means of doing pacing into
> bbr.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> In either case our testing has shown that our pacing is more
> accurate than
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> either fq or the internal pacer :)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> R
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:05 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks Randall.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I was able to apply the patch - now rebuilding the kernel. Would
> update on
> > > >>>> how it goes.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> BTW, is there any description on how lack of tc_fq under FreeBSD
> is
> > > >>>> compensated here?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> The original BBR patches on Linux show that as a must-have? Is
> that
> > > >>>> functionality implemented via tcp_ratelimit.[ch]?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Any pointers to existing presentations/discussions highly
> appreciated?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks a lot.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Randall Stewart <rrs at netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> You should be able to compile it against the current head. I
> re-doing that
> > > >>>> now (had an
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> issue with my machine and had to roll it back to a backup).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> When I put the patch up on Sept 10th it complied with and without
> BBR on
> > > >>>> whatever
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> was that rev..
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Looking in the commit logs that would have been around 352191
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hope that helps
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> R
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:32 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hi Randall,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks for releasing BBR patch:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582#change-xcAWBif3E9Jq
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Could you please let me know what SVN/GIT label tag this is based
> on? I
> > > >>>> would like to patch and experiment with it. I couldn't find this
> info in
> > > >>>> the released patch.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks a lot!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:26 AM Ryan Stone <rysto32 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rrs@ has just posted the BBR patch to phabricator:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rrs at netflix.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rrs at netflix.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rrs at netflix.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rrs at netflix.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> rrs at netflix.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> ------
> > > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > > >>>> rrs at netflix.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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> > > > ------
> > > > Randall Stewart
> > > > rrs at netflix.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > ------
> > > Randall Stewart
> > > rrs at netflix.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------
> > Randall Stewart
> > rrs at netflix.com
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> >
> >
>
> ------
> Randall Stewart
> rrs at netflix.com
>
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