FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers

[Warner Losh]

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:03 AM Brooks Davis <brooks at freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 11:25:48AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> > On 10/4/18 3:07 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> > > At the root of this problem is the community's long resistance to
> having
> > > data reported back to the project data about the machines running
> FreeBSD.
> > > Absent any real and significant data, the only way to know if things
> are
> > > unused is to ask. We cannot have the act of merely asking cause people
> to
> > > freak out and hurl expletives all over the place. That's significantly
> not
> > > cool.
> >
> > First off, I absolutely don't want to flame: I'm glad you asked and I
> > was happy to answer.
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, don't we have sysutils/bsdstats (which I install
> > on all the boxes I manage, but I understand won't be present in most
> > embedded systems)?
> > Is that project such a failure?
> > If so, should it be better promoted or would it be pointless?
>
> In theory it would provide valuable data, but in practice the website is
> broken and unable to produce device data.  I've asked multiple times for
> it to be fixed.  It would be great if it worked and we could use it.
>

There's also a few problems with using the data that's there for what we
want to do with it.

Warner