Recommendations for 10gbps NIC

Barney Cordoba barney_cordoba at
Sun Jul 28 18:32:21 UTC 2013

 From: Alexander V. Chernikov <melifaro at>
To: Barney Cordoba <barney_cordoba at> 
Cc: "freebsd-net at" <freebsd-net at>; Daniel Feenberg <feenberg at> 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Recommendations for 10gbps NIC

On 27.07.2013 02:14, Barney Cordoba wrote:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Daniel Feenberg <feenberg at>
> *To:* Alexander V. Chernikov <melifaro at>
> *Cc:* Barney Cordoba <barney_cordoba at>;
> "freebsd-net at" <freebsd-net at>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2013 4:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Recommendations for 10gbps NIC
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Alexander V. Chernikov wrote:
>  > On 26.07.2013 19:30, Barney Cordoba wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >> *From:* Alexander V. Chernikov <melifaro at
> <mailto:melifaro at>>
>  >> *To:* Boris Kochergin <spawk at <mailto:spawk at>>
>  >> *Cc:* freebsd-net at <mailto:freebsd-net at>
>  >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:10 PM
>  >> *Subject:* Re: Recommendations for 10gbps NIC
>  >>
>  >> On 25.07.2013 00:26, Boris Kochergin wrote:
>  >> > Hi.
>  >> Hello.
>  >> >
>  >> > I am looking for recommendations for a 10gbps NIC from someone who has
>  >> > successfully used it on FreeBSD. It will be used on FreeBSD
> 9.1-R/amd64
>  >> > to capture packets. Some desired features are:
>  >> >
> We have experience with HP NC523SFP and Chelsio N320E. The key difference
> among 10GBE cards for us is how they treat foreign DACs. The HP would PXE
> boot with several brands and generic DACs, but the Chelsio required a
> Chelsio brand DAC to PXE boot. There was firmware on the NIC to check the
> brand of cable. Both worked fine once booted. The Chelsio cables were hard
> to find, which became a problem. Also, when used with diskless Unix
> clients the Chelsio cards seemed to hang from time to time. Otherwise
> packet loss was one in a million for both cards, even with 7 meter cables.
> We liked the fact that the Chelsio cards were single-port and cheaper. I
> don't really understand why nearly all 10GBE cards are dual-port. Surely
> there is a market for NICs between 1 gigabit and 20 gigabit.
> The NIC heatsinks are too hot to touch during use unless specially cooled.
> Daniel Feenberg
> ---------------------
> The same reason that they don't make single core cpus anymore. It costs
> about the
> same to make a 1 port chip as a 2 port chip.
> I find it interesting how so many talk about "the cards", when most
> often the
> differences are with "the drivers". Luigi made the most useful comment;
> if you ever
> want to use netmap, you need to buy a card compatible with netmap. Although
> you don't need netmap just to capture 10Gb/s. Forwarding, Maybe.
> I also find it interesting that nobody seems to have a handle on the
> performance
> differences. Obviously they're all different. Maybe substantially different.

"It depends on what kind of performance you are talking about.
All NICs are capable of doing linerate RX/TX for both small/big packets.
The only notable exception I;m aware of are Intel 82598-based NICs which 
advertise PCI-E X8 gen2 with _2.5GT_ link speed, giving you maximum 
~14Gbit/s bw for 2 ports instead of 20."

This statement is sort of like saying "all cars can do 65MPH" or whatever the
speed limit is, so therefore all cars are equal.

If one device can forward 2Mpps at 20% cpu and other used 45%, obvious
there is a preference to use the more efficient driver/controller.


> The x540 with RJ45 has the obvious advantage of being compatible with
> regular gigabit cards,
> and single port adapters are about $325 in the US.
> When cheap(er) 10g RJ45 switches become available, it will start to be
> used more and more.
> Very soon.
> BC

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