FreeBSD amd64 GENERIC kernel

blubee blubeeme gurenchan at
Thu Dec 14 07:20:49 UTC 2017

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Shane Ambler <FreeBSD at> wrote:

> On 14/12/2017 01:22, blubee blubeeme wrote:
> > What sources do kernel modules pull in?
> >
> > I'm looking at the generic kernel config for am64:
> >
> > # Sound support
> > device sound # Generic sound driver (required)
> > device snd_cmi # CMedia CMI8338/CMI8738
> > device snd_csa # Crystal Semiconductor CS461x/428x
> > device snd_emu10kx # Creative SoundBlaster Live! and Audigy
> > device snd_es137x # Ensoniq AudioPCI ES137x
> > device snd_hda # Intel High Definition Audio
> > device snd_ich # Intel, NVidia and other ICH AC'97 Audio
> > device snd_via8233 # VIA VT8233x Audio
> >
> >
> > The device "sound" is required, does that mean if I totally uncomment out
> > all the device including sound, then the machine won't boot?
> >
> > Does required mean a breaking kernel or just no sound?
> Required means any of the following snd_* devices require it to build.
> Commenting all devices you have listed results in a kernel that allows
> the module from audio/oss to be loaded.
> Having experimented with this a few days ago - while the sound and snd_*
> loadable modules are built, they are also permanently linked into the
> generic kernel which means we can't unload them after startup or prevent
> them loading in loader.conf, so to use the audio/oss kernel module a
> custom kernel needs to be built with these disabled.
> It is also possible to add
> WITHOUT_MODULES=sound snd_cmi snd_csa snd_emu10kx snd_es137x snd_hda
> snd_ich snd_via8233
> to /etc/make.conf.
> Note that this leads to a generic kernel without sound that can be
> confusing later when you have forgotten. I would recommend using the
> custom kernel config with a descriptive name "ident NO_SOUND" so that
> later you know why sound stops working.
> I like to keep generic installed as kernel and give custom kernels
> different names -
> make buildkernel KERNCONF=NO_SOUND
> make installkernel KERNCONF=NO_SOUND KODIR=/boot/kernel.no_sound
> Add kernel="kernel.no_sound" to loader.conf to load it at boot.
> Add kernels="kernel,kernel.no_sound" to easily choose between them in
> the boot screen.
> I must admit to a lack of documentation regarding the install and use of
> audio/oss. While I didn't get far with config, I can contribute the
> above to installation.
> --
> FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing
> Shane Ambler
> Hi Shane

thanks for the tips, I just built a kernel with all of those sound drivers
commented out.

There was no problem, except for the total lack of sound, which is expected.
My sound does make that default *beep* when I delete on an empty terminal

My goal is to port OSS 4.2 to get rid of all the patches and legacy OSS
OSS has ALSA emulation so I should be able to test /ports/audio packages
to see what needs patching, updating etc...

Once OSS 4.2 is in FreeBSD then I can work on adding OSS backends for
and other software that I use.

Chromium OSS feature request from 2009:

Would they still accept an OSS backend today?

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